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Title: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on December 12, 2014, 02:24:54 PM
Hi,

I've had a consultation with Paul Johnson I was told I have vertical maxillary excess and slightly excessive show of my upper incisors. I was advised single jaw surgery for my upper jaw. this would come to a total cost of 7,315 GBP inc hospital fees and check up appointments etc, he advised me I will also have anti clockwise rotation of the lower jaw done to bring my chin slightly more forward and advised me not to get lower jaw surgery as there is a bigger risk of numbness and a much longer healing time. I explained my concerns about my chin as I really hate its appearance and he advised sliding genioplasty would be a better solution. Although a sliding genioplasty would be great it would then bump the cost to 12,000 GBP.

I really want to schedule a surgery date soon but wondered if anyone else has had the upper jaw surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw and how much of an impact it made to your chin??

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: sean89 on December 12, 2014, 04:13:17 PM
I think CCW and genioplasty is the perfect treatment plan. I'm not sure how much rotation you will be able to get because you don't have massive amounts of gum show and you don't want to flare your upper teeth too much. If you 'hate' your chin now, I doubt you will be happy with it if you just get upper jaw surgery. My advice is to get both and the fact that he proposed that, instead of being some quack surgeon who proposes every procedure under the sun, is a sign that he is someone you should seriously consider. Also, given that you are not really changing your bite that much, and so there doesn't need to be as much communication between your ortho and surgeon,  you could also consider going abroad to save money, or even going to a less famous English surgeon (not one based in the south). These are movements that every maxfac should know. If you do go abroad, however, the costs do add up. I worked it out the other day and I've had to travel to the foreign city where I had my operation 7 times thus far. For a lot of people in a lot of jobs, this is not really an option but maybe it is for you.

Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: needadvancement on December 14, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Sliding genioplasty does look suitable for you. Your lips line up with no incompetence in your profile photo and a chin advancement could do a lot for your appearance, you're already very pretty and your chin recession is your only flaw that could be improved significantly imo.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on December 18, 2014, 12:55:45 PM
Thanks for your opinions, I think I'm going to go for both upper jaw surgery and sliding genioplasty. I've saved up 5,000 Gbp so far, I'm hoping I can pay the rest of by a medical loan. I don't think i'll ever be happy until I get it done. :-(. Its been playing on my mind for a good couple of years now, i've also heard apparently the older you get, the harder it is to get the surgery done :-/.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: Nataliepryor on January 06, 2015, 03:19:09 AM
Genio will fix your recessed chin and dramatically improve your profile.

I have seen a lot of after photos where people have regretted not getting the genio.  The changes almost look like they have had nothing done without it.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: treevernal on January 06, 2015, 09:50:45 PM
You are going to have such a great result as you have lovely features and beautiful eyes.  Just thought I'd chime in!
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: Lazlo on January 06, 2015, 11:30:05 PM
yeah you'll probably look pretty cute once you get a balanced chin. How's your bod?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: girl on January 18, 2015, 04:45:04 AM
Genio will fix your recessed chin and dramatically improve your profile.

I have seen a lot of after photos where people have regretted not getting the genio.  The changes almost look like they have had nothing done without it.

If she has rotation, then mandibular advancement alone will work better. Genio + recessed jaw = hag look.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on January 21, 2015, 09:53:52 AM
Genio + recessed jaw = hag look??  :-\ .
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: PloskoPlus on January 21, 2015, 10:57:27 PM
Genio + recessed jaw = hag look??  :-\ .

Yes - long "witch chin", but recessed mandible.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: Nataliepryor on January 25, 2015, 02:47:46 AM
Sorry, I meant with rotation included.  Some people still require a genio to balance things out, or am I mistaken?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on January 25, 2015, 04:02:49 AM
I'm thinking now I might just go ahead with upper jaw surgery only and maybe get chin fillers in the future instead of a genio :-/. I'll see how much of a rotation i can get, i'm also thinking of cost as well. I don't wanna be in debt and the max medical loan can lend me is 4K, i've already saved up 5K. For upper only its 7K and for both upper and genio its 12K - very expensive!  :-/
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: sean89 on January 25, 2015, 05:28:56 PM
Splodge - you can now get TADs for a gummy smile. Why don't you get them, and spend your money on a genioplasty instead, rather than risk the numbness and nose flaring that comes from upper jaw surgery?

Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: terry947 on January 25, 2015, 07:16:55 PM
@ sean89 - How can Tads fix a gummy smile?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: sean89 on January 26, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
@ sean89 - How can Tads fix a gummy smile?

Google 'tads for gummy smile' and you will see how it works.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: nrelax11 on January 28, 2015, 10:01:09 PM
Google 'tads for gummy smile' and you will see how it works.

Damn, could that fix lip incompetence too? If so, could have just done that rather than surgery. Although surgery seemed to be the faster route for me
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: PloskoPlus on January 29, 2015, 12:41:32 AM
Damn, could that fix lip incompetence too? If so, could have just done that rather than surgery. Although surgery seemed to be the faster route for me

I wonder how stable it would be though.  Surgical impaction is like the most stable operation.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: nrelax11 on January 30, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
Yea thats true, I mean I dont regret my surgery, just wonder if that would have been easier. Sorry to hijack thread!
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on February 03, 2015, 04:48:02 AM
hmm maybe TADS is worth looking into, I wonder what the cost would be.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on May 12, 2015, 10:58:01 AM
Have finally made a decision!, I am going to go ahead with lower jaw surgery only. :-)
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: JawKid7 on May 12, 2015, 01:51:31 PM
how did u go from upper only surgery to lower?  seems like a big change lol
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on June 04, 2015, 02:04:27 PM
I know seems really random but i am still going ahead with the same surgeon, tbh my upper jaw doesn't bother me all that much, I have very slight show of gums but nothing major. As where I really hate the appearance of my chin and he advised lower jaw surgery would be better thab sliding genioplasty as my lower jaw is slightly recessed. Next appointment with my ortho is on the 17.06 i'll need braces on my wisdom teeth now to prep me for surgery.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on November 15, 2015, 02:00:14 PM
Day 1 of lower jaw surgery 14.11.2015, recovery has been pretty difficult so far, i cant feel my lower lip or chin at all, i keep drooling, i'm having trouble sleepimg and feel so tired all the time. I'm hoping things can only get better from here!

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on November 16, 2015, 09:59:51 PM
Day 2 of lower jaw surgery - I never thought recovering would be this hard, i hate not being able to chew food, my face is very swelled up but i guess it can only get better from here...

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: JimmyTheGent on November 17, 2015, 07:26:39 AM
You are going to be gorgeous after surgery. You are pretty now especially your eyes. Post some after pics when you are done please ;-)

Hi,

I've had a consultation with Paul Johnson I was told I have vertical maxillary excess and slightly excessive show of my upper incisors. I was advised single jaw surgery for my upper jaw. this would come to a total cost of 7,315 GBP inc hospital fees and check up appointments etc, he advised me I will also have anti clockwise rotation of the lower jaw done to bring my chin slightly more forward and advised me not to get lower jaw surgery as there is a bigger risk of numbness and a much longer healing time. I explained my concerns about my chin as I really hate its appearance and he advised sliding genioplasty would be a better solution. Although a sliding genioplasty would be great it would then bump the cost to 12,000 GBP.

I really want to schedule a surgery date soon but wondered if anyone else has had the upper jaw surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw and how much of an impact it made to your chin??

have attached some pics
   
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: needadvancement on November 20, 2015, 05:30:51 PM
Hey I forgot all about this thread it's been almost a year. Good to see you went ahead with the surgery, good luck with your recovery and it's gonna be interesting to see the final results.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on November 27, 2015, 11:08:54 AM
12 days after lower jaw surgery! I'm still swollen but i am looking a lot more like myself! I'm now starting to eat soft foods too :-D.

I have a little bit of feeling back in my lower lip but i am still pretty numb in that area! Its still early days so hopefully it'll subside in a few months. :-)


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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on November 30, 2015, 10:28:15 AM
And day 16, first day back at work, still swollen and numb but i am getting better.

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: Ginger on December 21, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Wow, your day 16 pic looks really good! The lower jaw surgery made your chin turn out quite lovely. I hope you update us again on your progress.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: needadvancement on December 30, 2015, 09:50:56 AM
So how's it going now another month since the last update? Looks-wise and also health etc. You already looked great before surgery so I can only imagine.
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on January 19, 2016, 11:26:35 AM
This is 8 weeks on, i'm still partially numb but i can pretty muchgo back to kickboxing and eat most things now :-)

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: Bobbit on January 19, 2016, 05:04:35 PM

You have a rather nice improvement in your profile.

How is your bite ?

Can you describe your numbness a little more ?   Where on your face and chin ?   When does your surgeon expect it to resolve ?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on February 27, 2016, 03:35:05 AM
So its been 3 months and I am still partially numb on my right side, if this doesn't settle in the next 6 months then i guess i'll have to live with it :-(. My jaw keeps clicking which is worrying me a bit, did anyone else experience this 3 months after lower jaw surgery? 
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: splodge11 on March 14, 2016, 03:42:17 PM
Journey so far, I guess this is my final result..

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Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: sleeplover69 on November 11, 2016, 12:45:12 AM
Damn, this forum moves so slow. Your results look excellent, though. How's the numbness and TMJ nowadays?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: zygotic on January 28, 2017, 05:38:02 AM
May I ask how much the initial consultation was with Paul? Did he take xrays and would you recommend him to others?
Title: Re: Upper Jaw Surgery with anti clockwise rotation of lower jaw
Post by: slysurfz on March 23, 2017, 08:35:35 AM
Your results are amazing! Also, the progress so far looks good