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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on Today at 10:45:28 AM »
What surprised me a TON is how both Earl and him refere to it as "milder than DJS" WHAT?

It's possible it requires less cutting of soft tissue, blood vessels, etc. That's going to determine swelling for the most part. I think the mouth has the most of any area of the body (I think I read this?), and DJS is more in that area, so maybe with the cuts higher up those decrease a bit. Just speculation, but that would be my guess.
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Thank you for the link GJ. Yeah I read that one some weeks/days ago in my research.
What surprised me a TON is how both Earl and him refere to it as "milder than DJS" WHAT? Also this thread was how I learned it was two separate surgeries. I thought they were both done at the same time in one go but apparently not. What absolutely CONFUSES me a ton is that they keep refering it as recovery being "milder than Djs" and basically that it was not a big deal recovery wise. The cuts seem to be two, infraorbital area and lefort 1 area, apparently done at different times. This is insane to me I'd think it all would be on the same go. Today I'm contacting Sinn's team to see if he thought this to someone ever. I will be careful how I talk about it but I must try.

Thank you for messaging him and linking the thread to him. I tried messaging him some days/weeks ago but he did not answer yet. Let's hope there is more luck this time around.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on Today at 04:43:12 AM »
He's Varbrah's discussion of it: https://jawsurgeryforums.com/index.php/topic,8542.msg79109.html#msg79109

I reached out to him (maybe he's more likely to respond to an admin) and linked this thread. He was last active in January, so he might be around still.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on Today at 04:40:42 AM »
Is the step off you mentioned the one in the picture I posted?

That's where, in my mind's eye, I pictured a step off being a risk. Definitely ask about shaving down the bone and/or grafting to soften that. I'd imagine the eye sockets appear more depressed after the procedure, too, since you're advancing everything around it, and any asymmetry will be exaggerated as you move things forward.

I know we all think this is an esoteric and risky procedure. I still think that, fwiw, but after reading Earl's emails, Sinn didn't feel that way. I don't know if that's because Sinn's confidence in his ability, his experience, etc, but that was his feeling about it. In rereading the emails, that stood out.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 27, 2024, 08:15:16 PM »
Hahaha that makes sense GJ.

Thank you as usual. Is the step off you mentioned the one in the picture I posted?
Also the image is the only one that I could find that shows a modified lefort 3 but when tracing it's origin it goes into looksmax incel forums. That is a bit worrying.

I keep looking. Obwegeser seems like the perfect person for this. It's a shame he doesn't seem to want to answer anymore. Most people when they hear ML3 think advancing everything from eye socket down. When in reality you can just advance malar area and not the jaws like Varbrah had.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by kavan on March 27, 2024, 04:09:01 PM »
I know why Earl left. We talked via email a lot, and he told me why. That's why I haven't asked him to come back, nor is he ever coming back to any forums. I didn't withhold anything and told the OP I would get to Earl's emails and read through then when I had time, which was today.

Regarding your brilliance, I'm only impressed more by your humility.

I didn't say you withheld info. I said you attributed ME with withholding it (in a circumstance when I had no private correspondence with Earl as did you).
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by kavan on March 27, 2024, 03:54:27 PM »
Kavan.

I am adressing this reply to you.
GJ was clearly calling you out for how you phrased and put a comment on this forum. You DID come across as "I only help people who I find worthy" attitude. Specially since you just helped that other woman in that other forum. This is something I consider serious, I can assure you it is no joke to me. You are in NO obligation to help anyone. GJ is NOT guilt tripping you on that. He is saying that you should not even comment in the matter if you don't plan or know how to help instead of just commenting saying "I won't spoon feed you information" When we just want help of any sort. I appreciate the help a ton you gave me. Wether Harvard or institutations think you are brilliant I don't know, if that is true then it's deserved from what I've seen before from you here at least in knowledge wise, but truth be told you do come off as an asshole and switching narratives in some forums specially in this one. You tried switching the blame on GJ for you not commenting here or helping me any further, that is just your choice. Not GJ's fault or anyone else's.
       What else can a forum be for but ask, give or learn information. Nothing. Also phrasing "nothing I can say/do will make Sinn come out of retirement" That is not the concern GJ was talking about. You're probably not a dumb guy or an asshole, but it is a bit sociopathic you also had to clarify the Harvard part JUST IN CASE.
       Also the procedure IS the procedure. I do not care for EARL. Only the procedure. Apparently after it he still wanted more and his history seems there are multilpe things he wanted to adress, which could signal surgery addiction. I am not interested in that. Varbrah is someone who also got it. I'm also looking for forums of what he said.

As to saying I would not 'spoon feed' info on ML3, I said that way before you came along. So, my prior open statement of that should not have been looked at as in any type of 'invitation' that I was receptive to advising on ML3.

I told you from the get go in this string: 'It is an extremely esoteric operation. The only suggestion I can offer is to look in the bibliography in articles of cases you've come across in hopes to find a name cited of a doctor possibility.'

As time went on, it seemed like I was being importuned to provide info that would lead you to getting what you wanted when there was really nothing I could say or do to make that come true for you and then came the guilt trip and shaming which you deny GJ did in your behalf.

I understand that you want what you want and have limited your options to only ML3 despite orbital rim/midface implants that could address your problem and also you have a better rapport with GJ than with the way I say things.

 I recognize that 'back and forth' communication with me is not working out. No need to pursue it further and I have no issue with GJ giving you all the info you need as to ML3.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on March 27, 2024, 03:14:49 PM »
I'm surprised you remember.

My lady jokes constantly I have the memory of an elephant...

It might take me an eternity, but I get back to things.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 27, 2024, 03:12:53 PM »
Yeah similar advice Kavan.

Yeah that's what you told me in PMs i'm surprised you remember. Thank you for that. GJ.

The step off you talk about is the one in the picture I posted where the "bone graft" arrow appears I imagine.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on March 27, 2024, 02:57:44 PM »
I know why Earl left. We talked via email a lot, and he told me why. That's why I haven't asked him to come back, nor is he ever coming back to any forums. I didn't withhold anything and told the OP I would get to Earl's emails and read through then when I had time, which was today.

Regarding your brilliance, I'm only impressed more by your humility.
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