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Aesthetics / Re: Help reading CT scan analysis
« Last post by mazilla on February 20, 2018, 08:29:37 PM »
Ok but I didn't want a prognathic jaw, even if it is considered attractive in western society.

Also, I dont think male models fall outside of the averages plus/minus standard deviations. And if they do, they probably will by a little, I dont think they are big outliers.

Also, my jaw protrudes way more than Brad Pitt's.

But this is not what I want to know. What I want to know is if my occlusal plane is normal or not...

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Aesthetics / Re: Help reading CT scan analysis
« Last post by Lefortitude on February 20, 2018, 06:45:45 PM »
Its important to consider what the averages mean in context. 

Most male models, with the best faces, fall outside the averages presented by the xray tracings

I spoke to a surgeon who did a ceph on brad pitt and said he was technically class 3 prognathic.

Take from that what you will.
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Aesthetics / Re: Unhappy with sliding genioplasty, looking for Bay Area surgeon
« Last post by haven on February 20, 2018, 07:24:57 AM »
I've spoken to four Bay Area surgeons regarding a genioplasty but I'm looking to speak to a few more before I make my decision. You mind sharing yours and I'll give you mine? None of mine are from Kaiser.
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General Chat / Re: Forum's Future / Donations
« Last post by GJ on February 19, 2018, 04:08:54 PM »
I think a banner at the top would be a good way to get peoples' attention. Maybe a top banner and/or a bottom bar that is visible on every page.

Could say "Like JSF? Support This Forum" or some better, more catchy tagline with a button that leads to a bit of text explaining why the forum is great/needs support (not everyone knows that it costs to host and maintain a site) and the crypto addresses.

Thanks. I've been meaning to do this, but I'm in the middle of something that's taking up time.
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Aesthetics / Re: Advice needed!!! Double Jaw surgery
« Last post by Framboise on February 19, 2018, 02:03:52 PM »
Hi Miss01Herself,

As far as I know, extractions can entail TMJ disorder. You are missing your incisives and maybe your wisdom teeth,don't know if they have been extracted or if they are congenitally missing.  You don't have bad joint, it's the extractions which had probably hurt them. So don't blame on your joint but on your former dentist or orthodontist.

Defrancq's idea is not absurd, your jaws are really narrow and if the only issue is the gap between your teeth, it's not a big deal if it can alleviate your pain.

Your chin is prominent comparing to your lower jaw, so I won't do nothing ith the chin alone, that is without a BSSO.
Still, you look very pretty.

If I were  you I would go for a SARPE first and implants and then see. Take your time.

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Aesthetics / Re: Advice needed!!! Double Jaw surgery
« Last post by girl on February 19, 2018, 01:45:29 PM »
Thanks for the update!

I honestly see nothing wrong (orthognathically) with your top jaw or midfacial proportions, irrespective of your small teeth and minor gum show. I guess that's because you really don't have the syndromic appearance of someone with a jaw-related issue. You are very attractive and appear to have a decent occlusal plane with no recessed looking facial features. Also, you don't look as if you have an overbite. Your midface doesn't look narrow, so jaw widening seems pointless (I know it's to do with the arch too, but I feel it only really works for those who have a narrow midface). I'm going by visuals from the pics you provided, and to me you look like a really pretty young woman. I think the ceph created a lot of confusion due to the incorrect angle, with you looking right down at the floor.

You might be the best candidate for a chin wing alone. I don't think moving the upper jaw forward in order to allow movement of the lower will give you a pleasing appearance. I think cosmetic dentistry with some minor gum removal and veneers could work for you and camouflage any perceived issues here.

If you had an element of "horse" I'd say jaw surgery, but I can just see your lower jaw is slightly weak. And I mean, even that's not bad. You still have a very nice silhouette in profile.
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General Chat / Re: Forum's Future / Donations
« Last post by girl on February 19, 2018, 01:24:33 PM »
I think a banner at the top would be a good way to get peoples' attention. Maybe a top banner and/or a bottom bar that is visible on every page.

Could say "Like JSF? Support This Forum" or some better, more catchy tagline with a button that leads to a bit of text explaining why the forum is great/needs support (not everyone knows that it costs to host and maintain a site) and the crypto addresses.

 
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Your post is written in stanzas like a poem. I kind of read it as one.

Paul Johnson has varied feedback here i.e. largely not great. Do you have any photos? Did Sailer recommend anything specific?
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Surgeon Reviews and Leads / Re: Anyone Heard of a Dr. Glyman in Las Vegas?
« Last post by kavan on February 18, 2018, 07:00:07 PM »
Wow, this doc has recently discovered his bad YELP reviews.  There is one really bad one from 2013 and he confronts the review in 2017. There are other bad ones too from past years and he does confront.
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Surgeon Reviews and Leads / Re: Anyone Heard of a Dr. Glyman in Las Vegas?
« Last post by kavan on February 18, 2018, 06:38:30 PM »
Yes.

I'd personally avoid a doctor who sends out cease and desist papers to a patient who had a bad experience. Assuming the patient is telling the truth about their surgery, this looks bad.

Indeed and I was shocked as were the others who responded to George's experience with this doctor. I would like to hear more about the circumstances of this C&D notice and the back story of why it was sent.
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