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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2012, 05:41:57 PM »
based on your story im guessing exercises depend on the surgery. i had puckering and just opening jaw exercises for so many minutes at a time. did you attend this course on patient satisfaction and listening to patient expectation? ive skimmed and read through a few of AG papers regarding patient treatment and pre-op care. but his courses are like 2k-4k a person i think.

hard tissue and soft tissue react differently. i was also told after surgery i had a "perfect" bite - i mean, that's an essential part of the surgery LOL. 

did arnett initiate this conversation you had, and what was he rather specific or just nod his head in agreement?

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2012, 06:34:22 PM »
My ortho attended the course and told me about it.
You mean the conversation about my lower jaw and lip placement? I initiated it. I detailed in my post what he said. He's very to the point and doesn't extrapolate a lot. But he listens. I've seen many examples later of him really paying attention to what I said. e.g. today - my worries about my nose were taken seriously and exercises prescribed, even though my nose is only a teeny bit wider.
I think my exercises differ because I had such a huge impaction and upper lip reconstruction - my upper lip is really stiff now - which I knew to expect since Dr A had warned me about it.

i get what he said. this was during the pre-op? i mean arnett writes a lot about patient-surgeon expectations and information. did the atmosphere/climate seem normal, like this is the time to know everything?

edit: i realize this is a pretty dumb question. anyways, im glad you knew what to expect and everything.


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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2012, 07:12:17 AM »
Good advice.  Thank you for sharing.  If you think of anything else like this, please do share.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2012, 02:17:01 AM »
sucks about the stitch. i think i had one that had to be cut early as well. as far as nerves go, have you considered klonapin or something similar? just to relax i guess. the painkillers never worked for me, except for the morphine.




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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2012, 08:04:48 AM »
Hi Antbee -

By looking at your morph I'm surprised at how subtle the difference is, at least compared to mine. I'm sure you notice all the little details about your face, but in the photos I mostly observe typical post-surgery swelling. Maybe as it continues to go down people will recognize you better? I can see why it feels strange to not be recognized right off. In everyday interactions, people don't stop to analyze.

As far as what someone might think during conversation, you are doing them a favor by helping them to get over themselves! If I had to interact, I'd just make it plain; "Hey, don't worry, I'm not on drugs. I'm doing my best to speak, but my mouth is numb and gimpy from jaw surgery".


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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2012, 04:29:13 PM »
Antbee......thanks for posting pics.....really helps those of us in the pre surgery stages.... You really look great!   You could be a model.  Congrats and best wishes for smooth sailing in the future recovery stages.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2012, 06:53:34 PM »
You're actually very attractive --I mean you were quite attractive before, albeit with a longish face(sorry just pointing out the obvious, don't worry I freely admit I have a weak chin/jaw so opposite problem), and now that that's been quite obviously fixed, yes, you might possibly be model material when all is said and done. You should be tremendously pleased. I would say you've even got great tweaks to your nose and upper malar region --so everything looks great --and you already had great skin, lustrous hair and striking eyes. I'm too lazy to go back and read your entire thread, what exactly was the lip reconstruction you had done?

It looks like the surgery has greatly improved your lower orbital region as well, I wonder if the HA paste was used to fill in and augment that area as well.

Regardless, you should be ecstatic.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2012, 12:33:06 AM »
how do your cheeks feel?

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2012, 12:44:54 AM »
My cheeks are getting feeling back but feel kind of solid - that mask feeling has really hit me lately.

sorry a bit off-topic, are you like one of those e-news entertainment reporters or something? 

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2012, 03:08:03 AM »
Yeah exactly but I'm not on camera. I just do print interviews.

oh that's awesome.  well now with your new look you could totally do on air stuff too if you wanted to (i mean you could have before though, but you're one of those lucky few who had all the right features to have come out of surgery with a truly stunning result(I mean you can even tell now). It's cause you had such delicate bone structure and sharp features pre-surgery. see my hyper-critical attention to detail is as focussed on positive features as much as bad...you're quit fortunate.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2012, 02:22:49 AM »
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I'm missing wearing sunglasses and not looking bizarre'y swollen

can you clarify? do you miss wearing sunglasses or you're missing wearing sunglasses? in other words, do the sunglasses have an affect on your healing, like touching your cheeks?

weird question, just curious.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2012, 06:54:38 AM »
Wow you are beautiful!

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2012, 08:00:53 AM »
2. I want to write something on how people's significant others may or may not view their partner differently (emotionally) post-surgery. I noticed a few cases on JSB of women who commented that their partners felt they were different people or too alien now after surgery. I imagine this happens with both sexes, it just happens that it's been women so far who've mentioned it in posts I've seen. Either way, something about how difficult it may be when your partner's face changes really radically. I 'd need to find people willing to take part since I did this as a single person.

I'd be willing to take part.  I'm a bit worried about how my wife will react to everything.  I'm hoping that I feel better functionally and second will have some minor cosmetic benefits that she will only appreciate.  Only time will tell.

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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2012, 03:39:10 PM »
also, your stomach shrinks from the liquid diet so you get full a lot quicker. you might get tired of the soups and creating blended cocktails (especially if you're the one doing it). in my case, i decided to just drink milkshakes almost exclusively and would throw in some protein powder every now and again. i still lost 20 pounds in less than a month.


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Re: Surgery with Arnett 10/11
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2012, 03:55:31 PM »
Thanks Tri. Glad you're finding it informative. In the spirit of that, here's two pics from today. I wanted you guys to have a clear idea of how tricky it is smiling and closing my mouth. You can also see how my mouth wants to go to one side in the 'smiling' pic. It's so weird how my face is trying to adapt. All this is temporary as far as I know and I feel fine today in general. Oh and you can see how my nostrils widen when I smile. Some of this is down to the huge effort I'm making to pull up the corners of my mouth. I imagine it will improve.
Just met up with znewton. He joined me at one of my work events. Unfortunately it was a food fair! Sheer torture. Gourmet food stands everywhere. Everything from sushi to home made carrot cake to BBQ ribs and burgers from the Counter. We ended up pitifully drinking juices from Pressed Juicery. I mean they're good but I would have LOVED the cake. I have a huge sweet tooth. In fact just now I tried to placate myself by sucking on a tiny piece of chocolate. It took me about 20 minutes to finish one square. Haha. By the way I want to emphasise how incredibly helpful it is to find a surgery buddy to trade info with. Really helps to keep me sane when I'm worrying about something, struggling or bored at home while everyone else is out having fun etc. Having someone who gets what you're going through is great. Maybe this forum could do what archwired does and post a surgery buddies thread every so often.


Thanks for the post antbee :) She's most definitely right that the food fair was utter torture but we ended up having a few cups of some really good fresh juice. To reiterate - I had planned to do what she just discussed regarding how patients having various plans to continue eating healthy/raw/sugar free diets post-surgery. Really, I just planned on doing a ton of raw and fresh juice post-operatively for the first two weeks while I was on liquids only, and let me tell you, that was the LAST thing my body wanted. I ordered a ton of my favorite juices from a place here in LA that I like and took advantage of their delivery service so I could have them in SB after surgery. There wasn't an once ounce of me that wanted anything to do with that juice after surgery and if anything it made me sick to my stomach to even think about. It sounds like Antbee and I survived off the same stuff the first two weeks: ginger ale and apple juice. That's all I could really stomach and I don't believe I took a stab at tomato soup until close to the two week mark. I just wasn't ready for anything but the juice, ginger ale, and boost/ensure I would force myself to drink. At this point I'm least concerned with maintaining a healthy diet and more concerned with just getting the calories and protein in as Antbee said. I normally eat very healthy and am really into staying active whether it's running, hiking, or working out at the gym. I've had to abandon my usual diet as to just get the calories in to heal and prevent further weight loss (been holding at a 15lb post surgery deficit since week two).

I apologize for hijacking your thread, Antbee ;) It was great meeting up with her today to share our stories and experiences thus far. It really does help to have someone going through this at practically the same rate as myself (she had surgery one week after I did). I never imagined I'd be making friends through the process of orthognathic surgery!