Author Topic: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam  (Read 1601 times)

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2017, 10:54:31 AM »
True, "Fraud" is probably a more specific and accurate word:
http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/fraud.html

But since scam is a synonym I think it's okay, too.


The bottom line is Stupidjaws/TYD and AnalyzeMyFace are a scam. What the scam is, I can't be sure, but it appears he recommends the same 3 doctors to everyone who signs up.

I agree that it seems shady, but you can't just throw around words like fraud and scam without being sure.

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2017, 10:54:49 AM »
In turn, it is possible for someone using such a program/service to claim; 'doctors do the ceph analysis'. Could be an assumption where the 'high level specialists' doing the tracings could be doctors. Here is example of how such a claim could be made in absence of providing names of 'doctors' who do them:


Interesting. But if I write the business owner/SJ and ask who the doctors are, doesn't he have an obligation to provide that information? He told me they were "local doctors" and says he met one of them in-person. So I don't think it's an outsource thing, but that's interesting.

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2017, 12:00:43 PM »
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I think I saw that one too. Was that the one where he offered to pay someone to see their AMF and called 'Mystery Meat pua artist' on there a cuck for not showing his photos?

You gotta hand it to him. In terms of acting, that was a master performance directed and orchestrated so he wouldn't even be suspected of being in capacity to look at AMF docs.

I'm not sure--possibly? i didn't search too extensively. I posted that because it shows that he's talking up a guy who doesn't exist. It is quite the performance.

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2017, 12:01:36 PM »
Well he would have been vulnerable to litigation in North America.

Anyway I personally never interacted with him in PMs but he did give a lot of well intended and free advice to users here. I guess at some point he wanted to monetize it. Just should have not done all the sneaky stuff.

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2017, 12:33:28 PM »
OK, lost track of what this was a response to but here goes:

Seems like he is telling people, 'no way he could own AMF', in the absence of his knowing some knew he was the CFO and owner of trademark.

You know one of the reasons people set up a corp is to differentiate personal income from corporate income where the corp is a different entity from the person. For example say a 'person' invests income (from job) into a corp he has set up. The 'person' could not get sued for a lot of $$ because the $$ is held in an 'entity', the corp.

Now as to his being the CFO of the corp, he could elect not to collect stock dividends but put them back into the corp. He could also elect to not pay himself a salary. Later down the line, he could cash in on it.

Now, I'm sure Italy is similar to US where setting up a corp is contingent on going in front of a notary public to VOW that the identities of the officers are who they say they are. It's not something you would do 'for a friend. He's from a long line of finance 'whizzes' certified CPAs I think. He would not be going in front of the Italian Chamber of Commerce to do this 'for a friend'. He would know better not to do that. So, it's just a cock and bull story he set it up 'for a friend', a cock and bull story to those who MIGHT believe it.

The set up of the corp is most likely one where when payment or 'income' comes in, expenses that went into generating the income are deducted and profits in terms of 'owners equity' (stocks) go back into the corp if the chief stock holders (his owning about 85% of the shares) elect not to cash in the dividends but instead re-invest in the corp.

Lets take the example where the CFO of the corp; 'RealTconsulting...' who owns AMF has some 'expenses' associated with the aim of this corp (one in the biz aesthetic surgery). So, any aesthetic service he gets for himself, he can deduct as an 'expense' of the corp. He could elect to generate a bunch of losses for a while if he wanted.

If he has a history and pattern of HIDING disclosure to mods and also history of coming up with some cock and bull story once  HOLES are found in a past story, the more holes found, the more he's going to be coming up with a better cock and bull story to patch up the holes. I would just leave it as that he's been at this for years, he's hid disclosure for years, he knows how to come up with some story when he's caught and I would not be expecting any 'forthright' or 'on the level' answers to any more questions asked of him.

I think the best that can be done is to keep him off some boards and to disclose to members what he has devoted himself to hiding from them as to the way he has gone about using/abusing message boards as opportunistic venues for members to 'find out' about this 'service' by virtue (or is that vice?) of cloak and dagger infiltration.

Might not be a bad idea to ISOLATE him and his to lookism where then it's their problem. I think Google socked them for having a bunch of 'jail bait' stuff on there where they are having hard time generating advertising revenue. So, let them lose even more potential advertising revenue from the goldmine he must get from there pretending he's not promoting his own product.






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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2017, 12:35:59 PM »
I'm not sure--possibly? i didn't search too extensively. I posted that because it shows that he's talking up a guy who doesn't exist. It is quite the performance.

Correct. No such adviser he claims to be his exists.
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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2017, 01:23:54 PM »
Interesting. But if I write the business owner/SJ and ask who the doctors are, doesn't he have an obligation to provide that information? He told me they were "local doctors" and says he met one of them in-person. So I don't think it's an outsource thing, but that's interesting.

Write to him at the official company e mail; RealT@PECIMPRESE.IT and see if you get a response like; 'I set up the corp for a friend' or if you're told they are 'local doctors'.

If no disclosure of who they are, resolve to Team of Mystery Meat Doctors.
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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2017, 02:29:44 PM »
I agree that it seems shady, but you can't just throw around words like fraud and scam without being sure.

There is a preponderance of evidence/information that dovetails on the intent to decieve. Just a matter of semantics if someone uses terms, fraud, scam or con job.
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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2017, 02:51:20 PM »
There is a preponderance of evidence/information that dovetails on the intent to decieve. Just a matter of semantics if someone uses terms, fraud, scam or con job.


Right and there might be people who don't care and they like the product. That's fine, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be transparency for everyone else. I would bet most people would have a problem with it. Would you be cool with this amount of deception while buying anything else? I know I wouldn't. I'm just glad people know so they can have an informed decision.

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Re: AnalzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2017, 03:01:49 PM »
Right and there might be people who don't care and they like the product. That's fine, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be transparency for everyone else. I would bet most people would have a problem with it. Would you be cool with this amount of deception while buying anything else? I know I wouldn't. I'm just glad people know so they can have an informed decision.

I'd be the last one to be cool with it.
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Re: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2017, 04:38:53 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/PlasticSurgery/comments/7adyry/tyd_on_lookism_talks_about_the_things_he_did_big/

Apparently Reddit keeps deleting this thread, too. So they don't want patients informed that SJ is running a scam. A question of mine would be "why?"...

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Re: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2017, 05:14:21 PM »
It's been over a year, so I can't remember where the posts are, but there was a guy on a different forum that gave a positive review for analyzemyface and he said he got a discount for doing so

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Re: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2017, 05:23:29 PM »
It's been over a year, so I can't remember where the posts are, but there was a guy on a different forum that gave a positive review for analyzemyface and he said he got a discount for doing so

Hah.

So bribery, too. SJ keeps adding to his rap sheet.

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Re: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2017, 05:43:16 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/PlasticSurgery/comments/7adyry/tyd_on_lookism_talks_about_the_things_he_did_big/

Apparently Reddit keeps deleting this thread, too. So they don't want patients informed that SJ is running a scam. A question of mine would be "why?"...

I wonder if SJ (=TDY on lookism) put up a link on Reddit to his bullshit story and then asked the mods to delete the response. The story was used as bait for people to PM him so he could share his 'private' photos (that he posts publicly all over the net) and then tell them how happy he was with his imaginary consultants at AMF  without whom, he would have never known what to do.
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Re: AnalyzeMyFace Appears to be a Scam
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2017, 07:11:07 PM »
Big Belly must be in on this scam, right?

He writes:

“AMF clients who come to my practice are better prepared and have more predictable, superior outcomes.”
Daniele Big Belly, MD

And SJ used him.
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