Author Topic: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq  (Read 705 times)

kavan

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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 01:04:21 PM »
I mean apparently that's a thing in bimax, to remove 4 bicuspids to keep the bite even in the back. Though I presume you're referring to straight up bicuspid removal for standalone orthodontic purposes. There's a big EU doc that augments the cheeks with buccal fat pad... I'm not convinced that produces reliably good results, just based off what I know from here.

Is his name Dr. Viksraitis  from Lithuania?  If so, he doesn't remove it. He displaces it to a higher place where it looks better.
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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 01:07:57 PM »
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But maybe we'll see more in the future. Also, fat augmentation in that area without the bone augmentation also looks fake.

At the beginning, it looks fake, later it's even worse.
A surgeon in Paris told me lipofilling is a scam and makes you look older over time. The grease won't stay in the high cheek bone area because of the bone resorption due by aging. The fat will collapse, especially on the sides of the nose.

I don't know how much advancement is it possible to obtain with HA paste, I will ask it.

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The flip side of that is that it makes FLAT cheek bones more visible as FLAT ones.

I didn't think about it, but you may be right.
It was your case Lazlo ?

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it can work in the right patient

The girl looks gorgeous after. She's not lacking of bone structure, she has just big "boules de Bichat".

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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 05:08:39 PM »
Is his name Dr. Viksraitis  from Lithuania?  If so, he doesn't remove it. He displaces it to a higher place where it looks better.

Alfaro. It's on his website.

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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 05:13:57 PM »
Alfaro. It's on his website.

fuck i wish i had this done instead.

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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 05:56:12 PM »
Alfaro. It's on his website.

Thanx.  Ramirez published about that technique YEARS back. The doc in Lithuania learned it from Ramirez which is why I thought you could have been referring to the Lithuanian doc when you mentioned a doc in Europe doing the technique.
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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2017, 04:29:01 PM »
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26505707

I mean ... treating a (probable) boney deficiency with buccal fat pad... I don't see why docs would choose this method over the more pervasive fat transfer.

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Re: Massive Red Flags regarding Dr Joel Defrancq
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2017, 12:52:27 AM »
Buccal fat pas removal doesn't lead to excess and softened skin ???