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kavan

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Re: Post double-jaw surgery concern: Upper jaw/lower jaw moved up too much?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 08:36:08 AM »


kavan, thanks again for your clear explanation. i get what you mean. even if that is so, then i must say the "optimal outcome" is still a little dissatisfactory for me. i truly believe that if my maxillary weren't moved so much, and i dont have what i think is now sub-optimal upper and lower tooth show, i would be very happy with the results, as i like how my front face looks like now, and despite my slight upper lip protusion, i think my profile has been greatly improved too (and i also think the slightly protrusive lip could be partially caused by the braces too, so im okay with waiting that out).

Why yes. That's the concept behind optimization. For aesthetic optimization of the WHOLE, not every single part can be aesthetically maximized.
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Re: Post double-jaw surgery concern: Upper jaw/lower jaw moved up too much?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 03:23:29 PM »
hi "girl", to be honest i'm not that concerned about my chin, but more so about my dissatisfactory upper tooth show and excessive lower tooth show.

i guess what i really would want is to have my surgeon recognise that it is a valid issue, rather than just dismissing it out of hand as my paranoia. or worse, denying the issue even though he knows that it is valid. that's why i'm going to see another surgeon for a second opinion.

as i mentioned, i definitely don't wanna opt for another surgery if i can, so i was wondering if anyone knows if orthodontics can help to improve upper tooth show like in my case to something more optimal.

anyway i dont reside in the US, but this surgeon in my country is supposed to be very good!


kavan, thanks again for your clear explanation. i get what you mean. even if that is so, then i must say the "optimal outcome" is still a little dissatisfactory for me. i truly believe that if my maxillary weren't moved so much, and i dont have what i think is now sub-optimal upper and lower tooth show, i would be very happy with the results, as i like how my front face looks like now, and despite my slight upper lip protusion, i think my profile has been greatly improved too (and i also think the slightly protrusive lip could be partially caused by the braces too, so im okay with waiting that out).


yeah you look young so your teeth could be impacted a bit and shit. I actually asked my ortho to restich my lower lip so that it definitely covered my lower teeth show and he did a pretty job ot it. So you might wannat ask your surgeonto do a soft tiissue procedure like that and at the same time you'd get a fulller lip and he could take out the genio brackets and you'd show less teeth. just a soft tissue procedure. let's see if he knows how to do it. Otherwise go see Dr. Sinn

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Re: Post double-jaw surgery concern: Upper jaw/lower jaw moved up too much?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2017, 11:52:20 AM »

yeah you look young so your teeth could be impacted a bit and shit. I actually asked my ortho to restich my lower lip so that it definitely covered my lower teeth show and he did a pretty job ot it. So you might wannat ask your surgeonto do a soft tiissue procedure like that and at the same time you'd get a fulller lip and he could take out the genio brackets and you'd show less teeth. just a soft tissue procedure. let's see if he knows how to do it. Otherwise go see Dr. Sinn

You got mentalis resuspension together with V-Y mucosal lip advancement or just one of those things?





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Re: Post double-jaw surgery concern: Upper jaw/lower jaw moved up too much?
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2017, 08:25:50 AM »
Just wanted to update:

It's a little strange but since I wrote the original post, my upper lip has further eased up a little, smiling is easier now, and my upper teeth show has either improved or I have simply gotten more used to it, but my smile looks less weird now and I'm less bothered by the teeth show now!

Just visited my ortho last week and I'm on elastics to help improve my cross-bite on my right side; the elastics will also supposedly pull up my lower teeth which are currently still quite bent inwards.

My lower lip still opens up a lot thus showing a lot of my lower teeth when I talk. So thanks for the suggestion - I will talk to my surgeon about the idea of mentalis resuspension and if it's even needed.

My upper lip is still a little protrusive for my liking but I hope it's just the braces!

All in all, this development made me look back at my old photos before the surgery and finally, for the first time proper in the 5 months since my surgery, I feel glad that I did the surgery and can see indeed the improvement to my face and profile. Although I must say that even though my surgeon said my chin would be a little shorter after the surgery, it still feels quite long! I'm not sure what changed or didn't change chin-wise, but I'm not that bothered by it at all!

Thanks again for all your replies and encouragement! I'm looking forward to removing my braces in due time and putting this whole surgery behind me once and for all =)

Here are some photos I put together to show the improvement that I can now finally see: https://imgur.com/a/xGNyN

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Re: Post double-jaw surgery concern: Upper jaw/lower jaw moved up too much?
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2017, 08:40:46 AM »
Glad to hear things are easing up for you. Nice photo presentation too where you put the photos SIDE by SIDE all on the same page for easy comparison.
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