the best european surgeons

[Heavyweight]

not quite, he pushes for bi-max rotation yes, but have you seen his gallery of freakshows?

http://www.sailerclinic.com/en/aesthetische_chirurgie/jochbeinaufbau.html

I'm talking about their common belief in the importance of very prominent and flat jaws. Unlike A/G, Sailer seems like a quack.

[Modigliani]

Actually M, I think that's one of the new trends, common in Korea as well, to do the jaw surgery first and then apply the braces. Saves a TON of time and also I've heard can give amazing results.
Another pretty interesting thing is he's developed a technique for surgery so that surgery only takes around an hour. I've heard that's true of Schendel too, his surgeries are a lot shorter.

Damn, wish I'd consulted with him first, I'm 38 and the time saving aspect is very appealing!

Sailer scares the s**t out of me 

[Cmonster]

@Heavyweight How does Sailer's philosophy match that of A/G? Can you please explain?

On a side note, I just took a look at Sailer's website after seeing his video and what the heck is going on there? His afters most of them are horrific, over advanced, protruding features that are so unnatural and brinking on repulsive.

Joanna- I have no idea what you look like but there are some amazing surgeons in Europe besides Sailer.

[Hellojoe]

Note to self: Do not go with Sailer even if offered ridiculously large sums of cash.

[joanna]

Cmonster, Could you post some names of the amazing european surgeons, please? My face is pretty now so the surgery will be a challenge. So I am looking for a surgeon whose goal is an aesthetic result especially, not only functional
I like that Sailer seems to be extremely devoted and involved in his view on aesthetics. However,I am not sure if I like this type of jaw:)

[pekay]

Cmonster, Could you post some names of the amazing european surgeons, please? My face is pretty now so the surgery will be a challenge. So I am looking for a surgeon whose goal is an aesthetic result especially, not only functional
I like that Sailer seems to be extremely devoted and involved in his view on aesthetics. However,I am not sure if I like this type of jaw:)

We have already told you which surgeons you should consider

Prof Mommaerts: http://www.mauricemommaerts.eu/en/mommaerts.aspx
Prof Raffaini: http://www.facesurgery.it/chirurgia_ortognatica.php
Dr. Hernández Alfaro: http://institutomaxilofacial.com/
Dr Henri Thuau: http://londoncraniofacial.com/

Sailer is a quack, disregard him and his wack ante-face theory

[joanna]

Why do you think that Dr Mommaerts is going to retire, soon? I have found him on facebook, he seems to be quite young.

[pekay]

Why do you think that Dr Mommaerts is going to retire, soon? I have found him on facebook, he seems to be quite young.

just a post that I read on a different forum, Prof MM is hardly young, looks like he is in his 50s

[Lazlo]

just a post that I read on a different forum, Prof MM is hardly young, looks like he is in his 50s

for a surgeon, that's young.

[Cmonster]

He looks mighty dapper

@Joanna, I hope some of the board members have given you some great recommendations. From Dr. Mommaerts before/afters and his reputation, I dont think it would be a bad idea to consult with him, also Dr. Raffiani.

Prof Mommaerts: http://www.mauricemommaerts.eu/en/mommaerts.aspx
Prof Raffaini: http://www.facesurgery.it/chirurgia_ortognatica.php

I am not associated or affiliated with either, but their work speaks for itself.

Do a consult, and go with someone you feel comfortable with.

I hate to speak so poorly of anyone but Dr.Sailer, has a rather narrow perspective on beauty/attractiveness and his personal sense of aesthetics is horrific. You are better off with either of the two mentions above ^^ seriously

[Lazlo]

He looks mighty dapper

@Joanna, I hope some of the board members have given you some great recommendations. From Dr. Mommaerts before/afters and his reputation, I dont think it would be a bad idea to consult with him, also Dr. Raffiani.

Prof Mommaerts: http://www.mauricemommaerts.eu/en/mommaerts.aspx
Prof Raffaini: http://www.facesurgery.it/chirurgia_ortognatica.php

I am not associated or affiliated with either, but their work speaks for itself.

Do a consult, and go with someone you feel comfortable with.


though you never know, joanna may actually want to look a little freakish --there are certain people drawn to that aesthetic. i'm not joking.


I hate to speak so poorly of anyone but Dr.Sailer, has a rather narrow perspective on beauty/attractiveness and his personal sense of aesthetics is horrific. You are better off with either of the two mentions above ^^ seriously

[AZJ]

not quite, he pushes for bi-max rotation yes, but have you seen his gallery of freakshows?

http://www.sailerclinic.com/en/aesthetische_chirurgie/jochbeinaufbau.html

Oh my god that is awful.  That woman looked beautiful and completely normal in her before photo and the after photo is just awful.  I hope she is happy with the result but I know I wouldn't be.  What did he do to her cheekbones?  They are so high and so big that her skin is collapsing between her cheekbones and her jaw bone. 

[AZJ]

I will never have a surgery in Poland. I choosed the surgeon that is considered to be the best in Poland but I had to finish our cooperation after seeing some of the results of his work - mandibular asymmetries, the reposition of the nasal septum as a side effect of the surgery or nose asymmetry...
I have just got replies from Dr Mommaerts and Dr Raffaini. Dr Mommaerts price for the surgery is between 6.000 - 9.000 EUR whereas Dr Raffaini's is betweenen 13.000 - 16.000 EUR (bimaxillary). Why there is such difference between those surgeons? Why Dr Mommaerts is so cheap in comparison with the rest?
Have you heard about Dr Kurt Vinzenz from Germany and Prof. Hermann Sailor from Switzerland?

Wow that is really low for Dr. Mommaerts.  I was thinking this must be an old thread when I read that but I see it was just last month.  I reached out to his office a few months back and they told me the cost for double jaw surgery would be 32,000 Euro.  I just wrote to Dr. Raffaini last month and they told me about 12-13 thousand Euro so that is close to what they told you.  I wonder why Mommaerts quoted me such a high figure.  I had heard on other boards he was very reasonable which is why I wrote to him to start with.  I didn't even bother contacting Raffaini at first because I thought he would be just as expensive but I was pleasantly surprised when I finally contacted him.

[pekay]

wow Dr. Raffaini is only charging 12-13K for double jaw surgery? are you sure? that is actually very reasonable

[Kristen]

Wow .... I just checked out that pic of lady with cheek bone enhancement and bimax......   Scary.... I prefer the softer look she had before.