Do my medpor malar implants looks unnatural?

[monterey01]

I knew about lefort iii and bsso. Dr Schendel said my bite was class 1 and didn't need bsso. I thought the lefort iii was very risky and chose implants. I made have made a bad decision.

[notrain]

I knew about lefort iii and bsso. Dr Schendel said my bite was class 1 and didn't need bsso. I thought the lefort iii was very risky and chose implants. I made have made a bad decision.

it is entirely possible that your molars have a class 1 relationship. You have a visible protrusion of your lower front teeth, however, and your mandible is super retrognathic. makes me wonder what schendel meant exactly, do you have a lateral x-ray of your skull by any chance ? i am not a doctor, but i think you would have benefited greatly from dental decompensation via extractions in your lower jaw followed by a bsso to advance the mandible.

[GJ]

OP, how is your diet and lifestyle?

[monterey01]

Here is my dental xrays -> https://cdental.box.com/s/4io37kyqyegf0zcslg49 . These are after my first usrgery (genio+jaw implant + 3mm malar/orbital implant). I was over weight and lost 60 pounds. I eat lot of salads and also lot of indian, chinese food. I watch my salt content.

[notrain]

thanks for the xrays, your bite was/is class 1 with some incisor proclination but too little to mess it up entirely for jaw surgery. From your before pics I would have sworn to find a messed up bite in the xrays but now I think the course of action you took was the right one, congrats on the improvement.

[earl25]

thanks for the xrays, your bite was/is class 1 with some incisor proclination but too little to mess it up entirely for jaw surgery. From your before pics I would have sworn to find a messed up bite in the xrays but now I think the course of action you took was the right one, congrats on the improvement.

i think theres a lot more that goes into fully developed faces than just jaw/bite. i mean my maxilla was in perfect poistion yet i had severly recessed cheeks and orbital rims. conventional wisdown says i should have had a messed up maxilla

[Lazlo]

i think theres a lot more that goes into fully developed faces than just jaw/bite. i mean my maxilla was in perfect poistion yet i had severly recessed cheeks and orbital rims. conventional wisdown says i should have had a messed up maxilla

Indeed, it's a very complicated triangulation of factors. But hey Earl you're one of the most brave and generous pioneers!

You follow and we lead! My goal is to have great cheekbones, and I will achieve my goal!!!

[earl25]

that why i dont think people like weston price, dr mew etc. there are many people who have jaws that are perfct and theyre still unattractvive. at the same time ive seen people with a few recesed features and theyre still good looking .

[notrain]

that why i dont think people like weston price, dr mew etc. there are many people who have jaws that are perfct and theyre still unattractvive. at the same time ive seen people with a few recesed features and theyre still good looking .

They are full of it because there are documented cases of malocclusion in prehistoric times, like Qafzeh 9 skull, 90000 years old (ninetythousand years old)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3835570/figure/pone-0080771-g001/

As you can see, severe asymmetry and cross and scissor bite, deviated midline. Would have needed a Bimax nowadays.

It is rumored that the cause was all the Mc Donalds Fastfood and lack of Falim Gum supplies.

[Gregor Samsa]

They are full of it because there are documented cases of malocclusion in prehistoric times, like Qafzeh 9 skull, 90000 years old (ninetythousand years old)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3835570/figure/pone-0080771-g001/

As you can see, severe asymmetry and cross and scissor bite, deviated midline. Would have needed a Bimax nowadays.

It is rumored that the cause was all the Mc Donalds Fastfood and lack of Falim Gum supplies.

"Modern" food consists of more than happy meals. Research indicates that these jaw deformity problems didn't become widespread until humans started to adapt agriculture: http://www.ucd.ie/news/2015/02FEB15/050215-Malocclusion-and-dental-crowding-arose-12000-years-ago-with-earliest-farmers-study-shows.html

[GJ]

I was over weight and lost 60 pounds.

Congrats. That is a huge accomplishment.

My suggestion is to try to tone yourself, probably via cardio exercise. I think this would actually change your face in a positive way. Also, are you getting proper sleep? You do not look well-rested, so I'd suggest focusing on getting sleep, too. This opinion is just based off the photo you posted.

I can't speak much about your original question of implants. I don't know anything about implants or how they should look.

[earl25]

"Modern" food consists of more than happy meals. Research indicates that these jaw deformity problems didn't become widespread until humans started to adapt agriculture: http://www.ucd.ie/news/2015/02FEB15/050215-Malocclusion-and-dental-crowding-arose-12000-years-ago-with-earliest-farmers-study-shows.html

even if it were true, you can have a perfect jaw and bit and still be unttractive. i highly doubt all those cavemen walked around looking like brad pitt

[Lazlo]

even if it were true, you can have a perfect jaw and bit and still be unttractive. i highly doubt all those cavemen walked around looking like brad pitt

hahah lol

[terry947]

@ earl - lol ya youre right, but there were probably waaaaaaaaaay less ugly people 2000 years ago. I think the average person on the most part had a well developed face, and at that point it was specific features that made them attractive.

[Lazlo]

i wonder if apes recongize whether other apes are goodlooking or not. I mean when I see a wildlife documentary all the apes look pretty similar.