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april

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2016, 02:39:26 AM »
The videos are disturbing. I feel weird watching them now that she is dead.

I was thinking of doing something more cosmetic, rather than jaw surgery, thinking it would be less drama... like liposuction and/or neck lift. Whatever happened to her I'm sure is really rare, but it's still frightening.

I've heard through the grapevine of some people committing suicide after TMJ replacement surgery. Not sure how true it is though.

But one study I read mentioned one of their participants killed herself a year into the study (of course they said it was due to 'psychological problems' not the surgery (!), but looking at the data she possibly had less than 5mm of mouth opening a year after the surgery and worse pain scores than she started out with - so I don't doubt it contributed to her suicide.

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2016, 08:11:38 AM »
no it's so rare.... it;s not so often
Are you saying it's rare or not so rare?

I know that surgery has risks. But some complications (such as her inability to breathe/hold her head up) occur less often than other types of complications. That's what I meant when I said rare.

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for example .. you may not know that one of the joint is now a little weaker... and during surgery they will damaged it completelty, because your muscles during surgery do not protect your joints... the mouth is opened very widely

to be honest surgeon hould examine you completely to be sure for example if he can do intubation through the throat, or better something similar through the nose
he should check if it's better for you to make some special simple protector for your jaw to not cross it's  normal max opening point
etc etc

they dont give a f... about very detailed diagnostics
they just want you to not die, do their job, take money and next...
Yeah, opening the jaw past it's maximal opening can be really damaging to the ligaments and discs. There's like a 4-5 month window after the discs have been displaced, to manipulate them back in. But once the ligaments have been stretched for too long, the disc will likely not recover. It's not all doom and gloom, but in some people can really cause pain and damage. I think wisdom teeth surgery is the most common culprit.
Both my joints are already both damaged and I know going into jaw surgery I risk doing more damage. I'm trying to find a doc in my country who does care about protecting the joints during surgery but its pretty hard. Even if they say all the right things, it doesn't mean they really give a damn. That's the scariest thing about all this - putting your health and life in ultimately a stranger's hands.

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2016, 01:14:20 PM »
Rico my friend, I think you should see a doctor.

It is okay to be sad and disappointed in some decision--but please, no dark thoughts.

We all beg that you see a doctor and talk about how you feel--nothing is worth ending your life over.


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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2016, 01:21:22 PM »
i've been looking for 2 months now..

it's hard if you spent all money for botched surgery ..and i won't earn more... because i'm to depressed to work
I'm just getting initial diagnoses...but i have no money to make next step in many cases

i need help of surgeon working in NHS.  I found one but it does not mean he will help me. For 60% i need fact correction
I'm collecting opinions of other specialist to show him

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2016, 01:23:10 PM »
I mean psychologist, not a doctor to fix the tmj.

Someone you can talk to. how bad is the pain?

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2016, 01:25:21 PM »
heh believe me it does not work for me.

It's too deep in me. I just need good health, nothing more. I never had headache in my life - oh ok perhaps 3-4 times, but it's nothing..... I used to be very healthy.. but that overlooked fracture and surgical error damaged me

i have some friends. One girl takes care of me..
the psychological pain is 10/10
when i talk with someone 10/10

i need to repair my problem as soon as possible
my body won't handle so big stres

and i got even something to calm my nerves - very strong - effect ?  anxiety about my problem 10/10

nothing works, this is why i'm terrified.. i have to correct this to save my life


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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2016, 11:56:43 PM »
Where are you located Rico?

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2016, 02:05:48 AM »
i know it's botched.  i have proof . I put it in my thrad what is wrong. My jaw is not in centerd position

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2016, 07:45:01 AM »
never give up

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2016, 08:24:59 AM »
Come to Boston Rico or dr Wolfe at Baylor university

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2016, 09:48:24 AM »
Take legal action and sue him

You don't seem to have many options

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Re: postop suicide ?
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2016, 09:10:40 AM »
Came across this article about turbinate surgery, which is sometimes done with septoplasty

http://www.buzzfeed.com/joeloliphint/is-empty-nose-syndrome-real-and-if-not-why-are-people-killin?utm_term=.fxPAmQKoJ#.jpODAbXV1

I have to laugh at this 'mystery' below (but with great sadness).

"And then there’s the psychological mystery. Nayak says the ENS patients he has treated not only breathe better, they’re happier. “Anxiety, depression — all of these are off the charts for the initial patient with true empty nose syndrome,” Nayak says. He and his team are still trying to understand why that simple tubular structure seems to be essential to a proper sense of well-being for some people."

It's pretty obvious to me if you were constantly struggling to breathe like these poor ENS victims, you'd experience depression and anxiety!
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