Author Topic: Jaw Center in Los Angeles  (Read 20275 times)

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2019, 05:15:55 PM »
There is something called 'CARE CREDIT' for cosmetic surgery loans.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2019, 05:17:57 PM »
Yeah, at least the main surgeons you would expect. I'm so concerned about asthetics. How could I express that to the doc without giving it away that that's the only reason I'm interested in the treatment.

Also, what do you think of my idea? Would it be insulting to do.

Just tell him/her you ALSO want to maximize aesthetics.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Dogmatix

  • Private
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 552
  • Karma: 48
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2019, 05:34:18 PM »
Just tell him/her you ALSO want to maximize aesthetics.

Agree. I mean the aesthetic aspect would probably be the only reason they would consider something else, because everything else is covered in what they can do. If that conversation leads up to that they won't send you to another surgeon, then you have it all on the table. Trying to trick the surgeon that he can't fix your bite when he probably can is not a constructive conversation, you need to be to honest to get somewhere. And it's also good to know exactly why you don't think they'll be able to handle it as you like. If it's posterior down grafting or what ever.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2019, 06:52:32 PM »
Yes, that was what I was suggesting. I can of course not give financial advices on how to save for it or where to lend money. But just saying the obvious, the health care systems, or in your case the military is not doing this to offer you plastic surgery. If they offer you a surgery it's because they see a medical problem, which I'm sure they'll be able to fix.

What you seem to be looking for is to maximize the aesthetic result. This is why you're having a conflict with your doctors. They are surely able to handle the medical aspects, but you want someone like Gunson to perform it, which is not gonna happen. Am I right that you're mainly doing this for aesthetic reasons, or what medical concerns do you have that you don't think they'll be able to handle for you?
Hey I apologize, I wasn't trying to sound rude with the way I wrote that. Yeah you're right, it's definitely not for plastic
surgery. However, they told me that it's considered elective, since they don't classify it as being medically necessary.

If that makes a difference in the way they decide on which surgical methods & procedures to use, I don't know. That's what
I'm trying to find out. (but I'm pretty sure though, they look at it from a functional aspect)

Yeah that's what I am concerned with primarily, aesthetics. And just like you said, they can surely handle the medical aspect. But as
soon as I found out it was a residency facility, that's when I started having all these conflicting concerns about them addressing the
main thing I wanted to be focused on.

I've been trying to get a referral from my Primary Care Manager to go in-network and see Relle. But it
seems like I'm going to end up having to be treated at a military facility. So I'm trying to think of
ways to have the best odds possible.

I was going to get multiple consults from top OMFS's, then bring them in with me to my consult with the military
OMFS. I'm also trying to figure out how I should go about bringing up my main concern of aesthetics to them. I don't think they
would disqualify me from treatment over it, but I want to try and let them know that it's a very important factor for me in
doing this. What would you say.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2019, 07:05:56 PM by Austinou88 »

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #49 on: January 05, 2019, 07:04:11 PM »
Just tell him/her you ALSO want to maximize aesthetics.
Yeah I didn't think Care Credit would loan somebody more than like 10K though. I'd be willing to work
out a payment plan with the hospital the surgery takes place at if it was possible. Then take out the money from
Care Credit (if I get accepted) to cover the Surgeons Fee (and probably the Anesthesiologists fee)

I heard the total bill (including hospital charges) end up being close to 100K or more, with
30-50% of that being the surgeons fee. A loan for the surgeons fee from Care Credit, and a payment
plan with the hospital for the rest. Probably wouldn't happen right?

Anyway, So just keep it at that? Is there anything you would suggest to imply heavily on.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2019, 07:16:24 PM »
Also Kavan, do you know if Sinn or Wolford do digital consults?

Was looking to definitely get a consult from Wolford since I'm seeing Havard.
I don't think Gunson will do my digital consult in time for me to have to give
to Havard though. Anyone you might be able to whisper to me lol.

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2019, 07:38:32 PM »
Also Kavan, do you know if Sinn or Wolford do digital consults?

Was looking to definitely get a consult from Wolford since I'm seeing Havard.
I don't think Gunson will do my digital consult in time for me to have to give
to Havard though. Anyone you might be able to whisper to me lol.

No idea.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2019, 07:41:31 PM »
Yeah I didn't think Care Credit would loan somebody more than like 10K though. I'd be willing to work
out a payment plan with the hospital the surgery takes place at if it was possible. Then take out the money from
Care Credit (if I get accepted) to cover the Surgeons Fee (and probably the Anesthesiologists fee)

I heard the total bill (including hospital charges) end up being close to 100K or more, with
30-50% of that being the surgeons fee. A loan for the surgeons fee from Care Credit, and a payment
plan with the hospital for the rest. Probably wouldn't happen right?

Anyway, So just keep it at that? Is there anything you would suggest to imply heavily on.

All I know is that Care Credit gives loans. No idea how much or what the payments are.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2019, 07:47:30 PM »
All I know is that Care Credit gives loans. No idea how much or what the payments are.
You ever heard of someone doing this to get there surgery
all covered out of pocket?

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2019, 08:20:25 PM »
You ever heard of someone doing this to get there surgery
all covered out of pocket?

IDK. Just wanted to tell you loans are there for cosmetic surgery.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2019, 09:07:50 PM »
IDK. Just wanted to tell you loans are there for cosmetic surgery.
Yeah, that's right. Man, I really appreciate all the time you've taken to help me out.
Can I donate to the forums, or do you have a favorite charity or gofundme or something.
Already given you and everyone else on this post lots of applauds lol.

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2019, 09:39:22 PM »
Yeah, that's right. Man, I really appreciate all the time you've taken to help me out.
Can I donate to the forums, or do you have a favorite charity or gofundme or something.
Already given you and everyone else on this post lots of applauds lol.

 Thanx. Sure, you can donate to the forums.  He goes by bitcoin.  His bitcoin is

 1AwY5KSLRLsHUYHe34a4wj12iWUYDogbWS

Just tell GJ, board owner,  which part is for me.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2019, 11:13:11 PM »
Thanx. Sure, you can donate to the forums.  He goes by bitcoin.  His bitcoin is

 1AwY5KSLRLsHUYHe34a4wj12iWUYDogbWS

Just tell GJ, board owner,  which part is for me.
Alright cool man.
I'm not setup with all that yet. Is that the only way?

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3977
  • Karma: 423
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2019, 11:13:57 PM »
Alright cool man.
I'm not setup with all that yet. Is that the only way?

Only way.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Austinou88

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 212
  • Karma: 4
Re: Jaw Center in Los Angeles
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2019, 11:32:03 PM »
Alright, I'll figure it out here soon.