Again, NO ONE here is denying that YOU see what YOU see. They are just conveying what they see. But when they don't see what you see or point out maxfax relationship that you have which can be considered good ones or ANYTHING ELSE that does not reflect your own opinion, THAT is EXACTLY when you start INSISTING they see what you see and if they don't, you 'question their ability to see much of anything.
In closing I shall say that what I observed in the first place is that you want your OWN OPINION reflected back to you by others and indeed you come off as INSISTING they see what you see. So, let's resolve to I'm 'BLIND', can't see what you see and lack the capacity to render anymore 'questionable' advice/feedback. GOOD and thank you for giving me an EXIT from providing any more. I'm OUT OF HERE with you.
If the maxfax relationships that i had were good ones i certainly wouldn't be on this forum. There was a time period when those relationships were (somewhat) good ones, back when i was a teenager, the difference is quite striking and that is why i will never be satisfied with my face as it is. I can post some pics from those days if i can find them so that you can see what i mean.
Nobody certainly HAS to comment anything. It is quite frustrating telling my side of the story again and again and then just get the same old "but the horizontal lines".
Once more:
I say my whole mid/lower face is canted. Everything below the eyebrows (Lefort 3)is recessed. If it was just the lower jaw, for example, it would be much easier to see. But since it's the whole midface, there is this certain "illusion" of symmetry looking from certain angles. And it makes sense, i had a crossbite after all.
The main thing im looking for (in the DJS surgery) is the ccw rotation, to fix the cant and the quite obvious asymmetry (the "long face") that comes with it. More horizontal projection alone wouldnt fix anything. Horizontal projection that comes naturally with the rotating movement of the whole lower face, i believe that COULD drastically improve my looks.
Your, whoever's, opinion on THIS assessment? A sound plan, a complete crock of s**t, something from the between? I'm all ears. Just don't tell me again that you don't see anything wrong with my face, if you don't then get glasses and take an another look at the pics that i posted. Just pretend for a sec that i have at least some clue on what i'm talking about and i'm not just planning to throw away 20k and my health for nothing. And if you still have no idea what i mean then perhaps it is indeed better that you don't say anything.
Excellent logic. I shall add that if the jaws are horizontal position there would be no (vertical) cant to be corrected.
If the natural position of the jaws would have been more horizontally protracted if not for the recession, as it seems it would have been the case here, then naturally there can also be a vertical cant included. There is no "one horizontal position" that is optimal for all people. Again, don't get fixated on the lines, look at the big picture.