Author Topic: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal  (Read 3319 times)

Greenlit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Karma: 0
Hello everyone !

I posted here several years ago, and I went through with a DJS with posterior downgrafting of the maxilla. This cured my sleep apnea, and the aesthetic part is way better.
Unfortunately, I had issues with infections on a maxillary plate (including one severe at 8 months post-op, 3 months ago), and I ended up removing everything because of it.

Surgeon told me no "non union" and the maxilla is stable. I am sending him an email asking the same as you guys, but wanted additionnal opinions:
Are there risks with the HA block used for the downgraft of the maxilla of "moving" without the screws/plates ? Of it getting fragile ? I have nightmares about the maxilla falling down without the plates... lol
For now I'll stop doing contact sports.

Thanks for the help !

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4029
  • Karma: 426
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2023, 06:34:10 PM »
Many surgeons suggest removing the plates after union has established because they are no longer needed and risk infection. So, I think you will be OK.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Greenlit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Karma: 0
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2023, 12:20:06 AM »
Thanks for the reply Kavan. Do we have any data regarding the strenght of the union, compared to "bone on bone"  ?

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4029
  • Karma: 426
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2023, 03:41:27 PM »
Thanks for the reply Kavan. Do we have any data regarding the strenght of the union, compared to "bone on bone"  ?

You don't have 'bone on bone'. You have a graft. So question about 'data' in my possession about bone on bone is an extraneous fly in after providing the salient info. What I can say is that hydroxyappatite grafts, if those are used which is often the case if you have a significant downgraft made from a material other than your own bone,...those grafts are porous and the bone grows into them to stabilize the union which the doctor told you you had.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Greenlit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Karma: 0
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2023, 12:29:43 AM »
You don't have 'bone on bone'. You have a graft. So question about 'data' in my possession about bone on bone is an extraneous fly in after providing the salient info. What I can say is that hydroxyappatite grafts, if those are used which is often the case if you have a significant downgraft made from a material other than your own bone,...those grafts are porous and the bone grows into them to stabilize the union which the doctor told you you had.

My bad, I phrased the question the wrong way. I wonder about the strenght of "bone on bone" union VS "graft on bone" (my case). Imagine getting a car accident, or getting punched, or a ball in the face.... that's what I meant by data regarding the strenght.

kavan

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4029
  • Karma: 426
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2023, 01:20:49 PM »
My bad, I phrased the question the wrong way. I wonder about the strenght of "bone on bone" union VS "graft on bone" (my case). Imagine getting a car accident, or getting punched, or a ball in the face.... that's what I meant by data regarding the strenght.

I have addressed the MAIN concern expressed in the TITLE of your initial post.
Please. No PMs for private advice. Board issues only.

Greenlit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • Karma: 0
Re: Downgrafting with HA block, stability after hardware removal
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2023, 02:05:55 PM »
Fair enough. Thanks