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Title: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 09, 2017, 12:35:30 AM
Is there any type of surgery that can narrow your head shape?

There's 2 doctors that do it apparently, but I couldn't find any other doctors beside them that offer this.
So a little skeptical, but am curious.

Apparently posterior temporal muscle reduction can do this.


Video Explanation on Function of the Temporal muscle: https://youtu.be/Rde5qudjiQY (https://youtu.be/Rde5qudjiQY)
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: UKMaxfac on July 09, 2017, 09:32:18 AM
why would you ever want this? A narrower head is never better especially for a male

What do you mean by 'head shape' as well? Which part of the skull / face?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Milli_Meters on July 09, 2017, 09:37:45 AM
There are people , whose heads are way too wide in proportion to rest of the face.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: The Quest for Aesthetics on July 09, 2017, 03:51:00 PM
Please elaborate on the meaning of head shape
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Millis on July 09, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
If you mean your neurocranium, then the only ways are through temporalis resection which only Eppley performs, or a lot of botox.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Lefortitude on July 09, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
Can they also widen my head?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 10, 2017, 09:30:46 AM
why would you ever want this? A narrower head is never better especially for a male

What do you mean by 'head shape' as well? Which part of the skull / face?

Basically what Milli_Meters said. Head too wide for face, giving you a creepy, lightbulb apperance.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 10, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
If you mean your neurocranium, then the only ways are through temporalis resection which only Eppley performs, or a lot of botox.

Why don't you see other doctors doing it, and just Eppley?
Is it legit? On Eppleys website he says theirs little risk.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 10, 2017, 09:33:56 AM
Can they also widen my head?
Apparently he can.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Milli_Meters on July 10, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
Why don't you see other doctors doing it, and just Eppley?
Is it legit? On Eppleys website he says theirs little risk.

Its an unusual request.

It was not really that easy till the advent of 3d printing. Eppley just realized there was a market and has jumped on it.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Lefortitude on July 10, 2017, 11:50:15 AM
if your head is wide and ur face is narrow like a lightbulb as youve described, youd be better off widening the face, rather than narrowing the cranium.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 10, 2017, 12:16:29 PM
if your head is wide and ur face is narrow like a lightbulb as youve described, youd be better off widening the face, rather than narrowing the cranium.

Are you saying it would be better/easier to widen your face?
How?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Milli_Meters on July 10, 2017, 12:33:28 PM
Measure your head. Is it really that much wider than average? (15cms)

If it is very wide , you may need a compromise of slight skull reduction a la Dr Eppley and slight facial widening.

If it aint much wider than avg and just looks wide compared to ur narrow face , it wud be better to widen ur face.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: The Quest for Aesthetics on July 10, 2017, 02:20:49 PM
Only really shows up with short hair, medium length hair covers it up to the point where it isn't really much of an issue.

Otherwise your best option is posterior temporal reduction. Widening the face won't tackle the issue because the area directly surrounding the ear cannot be mobilised. It is the position of this area relative to the posterior temporal region which leads to that 'lightbulb' look.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 10, 2017, 03:33:13 PM
Only really shows up with short hair, medium length hair covers it up to the point where it isn't really much of an issue.

Otherwise your best option is posterior temporal reduction. Widening the face won't tackle the issue because the area directly surrounding the area's cannot be mobilised. It is the position of this area relative to the posterior temporal region which leads to that 'lightbulb' look.

So than how safe is posterior temporal reduction procedure?
Is it predictable or can things easily go wrong?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Millis on July 12, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
Nobody here knows a thing, it's a very obscure procedure and only Eppley has written about it. I encourage you to please do research
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 12, 2017, 10:05:09 PM
Nobody here knows a thing, it's a very obscure procedure and only Eppley has written about it. I encourage you to please do research

Only research is from Eppley.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: PloskoPlus on July 12, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
Only research is from Eppley.
Mommaerts has something about this (reducing the temporal muscles). Pretty sure Korean surgeons do this.  Not sure if it's a great idea TBH.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Milli_Meters on July 13, 2017, 01:08:11 AM
Do you guys really think Eppley would claim "no risk" if there was significant risk? Idk. Transsexuals do have their adam's apples shaved routinely... Maybe this is just not a common concern hence the lack of data.

Anyway , OP , you should try to find some of Dr E's ex patients who went through this. Not easy but would help u.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: A-V-P on July 13, 2017, 02:48:31 PM
Is there any type of surgery that can narrow your head shape?

There's 2 doctors that do it apparently, but I couldn't find any other doctors beside them that offer this.
So a little skeptical, but am curious.

Aren't the Korean style surgeries ones that narrow head?
cheekbone reduction
zygoma reduction
Google it...
Here is one for example:
http://www.tlplasticsurgery.com/before-after-male-plastic-surgeryjaw-reductionzygoma-reductionchin-osteotomyhump-reduction-tipplasty-suture/

(It seems that my PS did something like one of those Koreat head flattening procedures to my head and also defattened my face without my consent. It looks awful and will age fast as soon as the too tight top skin relaxes. My idea of an attractive female head has fullness around upper cheeks, fat on lateral neck and nice brow bones that support eyelids etc.)
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 14, 2017, 10:21:38 AM

Is that satire or something legit lol?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 14, 2017, 10:22:39 AM
Mommaerts has something about this (reducing the temporal muscles). Pretty sure Korean surgeons do this.  Not sure if it's a great idea TBH.

Interesting, why do you think think it wouldn't be though?
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 14, 2017, 10:25:49 AM
Aren't the Korean style surgeries ones that narrow head?
cheekbone reduction
zygoma reduction
Google it...
Here is one for example:
http://www.tlplasticsurgery.com/before-after-male-plastic-surgeryjaw-reductionzygoma-reductionchin-osteotomyhump-reduction-tipplasty-suture/

(It seems that my PS did something like one of those Koreat head flattening procedures to my head and also defattened my face without my consent. It looks awful and will age fast as soon as the too tight top skin relaxes. My idea of an attractive female head has fullness around upper cheeks, fat on lateral neck and nice brow bones that support eyelids etc.)

Apparently that's what I hear they can do.
Eppley isn't a korean surgeon though.

So he did both without your consent, or just defattened your face?
Seems like that could result in a lawsuit if he did it without permission??

I'm not female, but nice to know!
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: A-V-P on July 14, 2017, 10:57:14 PM
Apparently that's what I hear they can do.
Eppley isn't a korean surgeon though.

So he did both without your consent, or just defattened your face?
Seems like that could result in a lawsuit if he did it without permission??

I'm not female, but nice to know!

I have never met Eppley, thus it was not him.

Here is a picture that you can click and see what happens with these korean style surgeries:
http://www.asianplasticsurgeryguide.com/beforeafter/wideface.html
The head narrows quite a bit.


(I'm still waiting for the doctor tell me what exactly happened since my face is so much smaller... I assume that not a complete korean surgery was done, but some sort of elimination of fats and bones, that look like the "korean style".)
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Milli_Meters on July 17, 2017, 05:31:05 AM
http://exploreplasticsurgery.com/head-narrowing-posterior-temporal-muscle-reduction/
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 17, 2017, 08:11:36 PM
I have never met Eppley, thus it was not him.

Here is a picture that you can click and see what happens with these korean style surgeries:
http://www.asianplasticsurgeryguide.com/beforeafter/wideface.html
The head narrows quite a bit.


(I'm still waiting for the doctor tell me what exactly happened since my head is so much smaller... I assume that not complete korean surgery, but some sort of elimination of fats and bones, that look like the "korean style".)

Interesting, thanks for the share.
Did you have it done in Korea, or in the USA?

Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: A-V-P on July 17, 2017, 10:43:51 PM
Interesting, thanks for the share.
Did you have it done in Korea, or in the USA?
In USA and I did not ask for it, but my face looks like if something like those procedures were done to me. No cheekbones eg. were cracked broken, but seems like they were burred flat. I did not ask my face shape to be altered, but it looks to have a lot different shape now.
I don't know what happened yet and the doctor is unwilling to let me talk with the OR staff... In the internet they write that he lies and he just lost 95% of a ~6 million case in court.
Title: Re: Surgery to narrow your head shape?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 18, 2017, 01:52:02 AM
What did you go in for to begin with?
And did you find out about these lawsuits before or after?

You need to look into an attorney if you're serious about it.
Performing unauthorized procedures is not okay, unless you gave him permission through contract.
Title: Re: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 20, 2017, 07:17:20 PM
There's lots of big worded explanations on posterior temporal muscle, that's what Eppley would be cutting/reducing.
Sounds like it would be bad to mess with, apparently it controls jaw movement.

Found this video explanation on it, Venito (first commenter on video) asked about Eppley's procedure.
The video maker didn't act like it was dangerous when he replied to his comment though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rde5qudjiQY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rde5qudjiQY)
Title: Re: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: someone on July 20, 2017, 08:32:16 PM
Isn't Eppley the old guy who killed that woman?
Title: Re: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 20, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
I saw something about that.
Something like he did a botched job on her, and she committed suicide? IDK!
Title: Re: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: UKMaxfac on July 21, 2017, 05:19:21 AM
Eppley looks like a bit of a fruitcake tbh.
Title: Re: Surgery to Narrow Wide Head?
Post by: Austinou88 on July 21, 2017, 08:15:31 PM
Eppley looks like a bit of a fruitcake tbh.
I know he bombards the internet with posts.
So who really knows?