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General Category => Emotional Support => Topic started by: protruder on September 21, 2016, 02:50:55 PM
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I got my MMA (bimax advancement) surgery more than a year ago for sleep apnea. My sleep apnea is gone, but im not pleased with the aesthetic results. I don't recognize myself and I believe the surgeon advanced too much both my maxilla and my jaw (I don't know how many millimeters). I also feel he impacted too much my maxilla so that its protruding upward and outward and my teeth show too much. This situation has me very depressed. I didn't expect this much change in my face nor that I would not be pleased with the aesthetic result. I expected just a minor change and for the better. Not a huge change for the worse.
For now all I got is this scan, Ill upload a picture once I get the post op pictures from my surgeon. Is this what you guys call a full ante face? Would you say it my jaw and maxilla protrude too much upward and outward?
Thank you
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are you f**king retarded how can anyone tell anything from an x-ray? chipmunk face can only be diagnosed when we see soft tissue. Also it can hot af on a chick.
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hahah ok forget about the chipmunk face then. What I meant is that I feel my maxilla and jaw protrude too much upward and outward. You can see that with the xray, right?
Im a guy btw
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hahah ok forget about the chipmunk face then. What I meant is that I feel my maxilla and jaw protrude too much upward and outward. You can see that with the xray, right?
Im a guy btw
it does look like the angle between the base of your nose and your upper lip is a bit too acute. do you think you look weird?
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I do think I look weird, yes. Would it be possible to move the maxilla and the jaw a couple mm backwards to make my face look normal without compromising my airway? Im considering going again trough the hell of this surgery to fix this... Is a bone graft or fake bone necessary to move the maxilla backwards?
Thanks
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I don't think bone graft is needed to move maxilla backwards. Cannot tell anything about your aesthetics/looks from an x-ray.
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This appears to be an 'ante face', right?
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Did they remove your anterior nasal spine?
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Did they remove your anterior nasal spine?
I broke my nose playing sports before the surgery, so I asked the surgeon to put my nasal spine straight so I could breath properly. IDK what he did but its like if he removed it. My nose looks completely flat now, add to that the ante face (with the maxilla and jaw protruding towards my nose) and I look very weird. I don't look bad, since I seem to be attractive to a lot of women, but I look completely different than I used to, and in my opinion I look weird. The nose thing is what it is, I can't help it, but im considering fixing the maxilla and jaw because the surgeon moved too much forward to open the airway as much as possible, not taking into account the aesthetic result.
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I broke my nose playing sports before the surgery, so I asked the surgeon to put my nasal spine straight so I could breath properly. IDK what he did but its like if he removed it. My nose looks completely flat now, add to that the ante face (with the maxilla and jaw protruding towards my nose) and I look very weird. I don't look bad, since I seem to be attractive to a lot of women, but I look completely different than I used to, and in my opinion I look weird. The nose thing is what it is, I can't help it, but im considering fixing the maxilla and jaw because the surgeon moved too much forward to open the airway as much as possible, not taking into account the aesthetic result.
Your nose tip looks so down. That's why I asked. Typically it is raised by advancement.
I had my maxilla advanced to fix a class iii and my lip is completely vertical. IMO that's worse.
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Your nose tip looks so down. That's why I asked. Typically it is raised by advancement.
I had my maxilla advanced to fix a class iii and my lip is completely vertical. IMO that's worse.
What do you mean with you lip being vertical? Your maxilla was advanced too much? Are you considering fixing it?
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What do you mean with you lip being vertical? Your maxilla was advanced too much? Are you considering fixing it?
One surgeon said it was over advanced, another said that I should have had a CCW rotation as well which would mean advancing the lower as well as differentially downgrafting my maxilla. idk who's right. my jaws look quite forward of my forehea and my mandible is rather steep.
I have massive nerve damage from my surgery and my bite is solid. So i don't know about a revision.
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Sorry to hear that. I can't really picture your situation. Im not very familiar with CCW rotation, but I think I had that done on me to open my airway even more. Sorry about your nerve damage PloskoPlus. Does it make it difficult to speak, eat...
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Sorry to hear that. I can't really picture your situation. Im not very familiar with CCW rotation, but I think I had that done on me to open my airway even more. Sorry about your nerve damage PloskoPlus. Does it make it difficult to speak, eat...
It's numbness in the upper lip. Everytime it's different. The lip feels stiff and rubbery in general. Sometimes it burns, sometimes it feels like a big bruise. Somtimes it feels like paper. Sometimes it feels like I've been punched. Moving the lip brings on the paresthesia. Smiling and talking the worst.
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wouldn't worry about it. looks masculine as fk in my opinon.
there is some actor I know that has that look. massive brow and nose almost touching his lips. Looks like a testerone molecule in human form.
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wouldn't worry about it. looks masculine as fk in my opinon.
there is some actor I know that has that look. massive brow and nose almost touching his lips. Looks like a testerone molecule in human form.
Which actor are you talking about? I used to get I looked like Robert Pattinson before surgery, I guess now I look like a chimp. It does look masculine tbh, but I just see myself weird, like too much change with respect to my old face. I didn't expect this much advancement. I didn't want my face changed, I just wanted to breath at night. Im going to see my surgeon next week to explore my options.
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http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/498006142-actor-woody-harrelson-is-photographed-for-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXn3X776WGFjR4GX1UHmGDmhNCioVsaF6gQ%2BKPoqE7VaqVhwO5lo0C7kae8xdHcmZSAhO2dJwzCP1mLhdbxCO4xg%3D
this bloke.
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I do kind of look like that dude now... Only I think my jaw protrudes even more.
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So I went to see my surgeon. He never told me how much movement he was gonna make pre-op, and never told me post-op either, although I asked several times. Today I had to insist A LOT to get the numbers, as the surgeon said that we was going to measure it with my pre and post op scans. I was like no, I want the pre-op plan, so he ended up saying that my maxilla was advanced 8 mm and my jaw 16 mm, with CCW movement. That's huge, right? I even feel like its BS because it was like he didn't even know how much movement he made. It felt like he operated without measuring, just guessing where the right position was. I even asked him before surgery if we was going to make a genio and he said that we would decide right at the surgery time after seeing how things fell in place. He didn't end up doing it, but that sounds ridiculous to me. At the time I said, whatever he knows better.
Well the surgeon says that I look totally fine, he said I have Brad Pitt's jaw, and that everything was perfectly measured to fit perfectly into my face. He started looking at my pre-op pictures and said that I had a double chin, and that I looked like the chubby kid in the class. He told me to show my pre-ops and post-ops to anyone and every single person would say that I look better now. Ok they might say that I look better but I still feel that I had too much advancement done on both my maxilla and my jaw and too much CCW movement.
I don't like the aesthetic result and I definitely don't like the way my surgeon treated me. He posts many of his results on his website, but didn't ask me if I wanted mine posted, that just tells that he knows the result is not right. Should I ask him to post it?
He also f**ked up my nose removing my nasal bone (he said it wasn't there because I had broken my nose previously) when I just wanted him to fix my deviated septum. So now I have like a completely flat nose and a horse's maxilla and jaw. And he says I look like Brad Pitt...