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Title: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 09:56:47 AM
So I ended up only have lower jaw surgery for my underbite because my surgeon said my upper jaw had full projection and if he had moved me forward I would've looked like a chimp? Would a 2mm advancement really have me looking chimpish?
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 10:38:31 AM
Hm so what you're saying is, actually my surgeon made the right call to not bring my maxilla forward, what I really actually need is a zygomatic osteotomy or filled of some fort to bring the midface region more outward? He did say I am flat next to my nose, but he said upper jaw surgery wouldn't have helped that, in fact it could've exaggerated it. He said my nose and lips would push too far forward. I attached another picture.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 11:12:46 AM
Thank you this was helpful to hear. I guess I just always assumed that a normal lefor 1 would give me the projection of the midface I always hoped for but I guess I was misinformed. My surgeon had actually posed doing a 3 piece lefort but he said he risks weren't worth the reward and the only reason he has wanted to do it I totally was because the teeth weren't leveled. So I guess I got my flat cheeks genetically and I don't know if it's worth trying to fix it unfortunately. My main issue still is my teeth. For some reason they look ever recessed. I don't know if it's in my head of if braces may have retroclined them a bit. I will attach a picture
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: Lazlo on July 30, 2016, 11:57:06 AM
Hm so what you're saying is, actually my surgeon made the right call to not bring my maxilla forward, what I really actually need is a zygomatic osteotomy or filled of some fort to bring the midface region more outward? He did say I am flat next to my nose, but he said upper jaw surgery wouldn't have helped that, in fact it could've exaggerated it. He said my nose and lips would push too far forward. I attached another picture.

you look fine. you don't need a "zygomatic osteotomy" lol
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 12:01:46 PM
you look fine. you don't need a "zygomatic osteotomy" lol
Maybe not that specific procedure... But my midface is definitely noticeably flat. But I guess I'll just accept that as genetics. I just don't know why upper set of teeth just appear retroclined/not broad enough. I hoped the surgery would help that
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 03:23:30 PM
Wait so do I look ugly..?
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: Lazlo on July 30, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
Wait so do I look ugly..?


No you don't look ugly at all. You're very pretty and you look like you have a hot body. Go live your life have fun! Your surgery was a success!
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 06:52:52 PM

No you don't look ugly at all. You're very pretty and you look like you have a hot body. Go live your life have fun! Your surgery was a success!

Thanks this means a lot. I thought the other guy was trying to say I was ugly I was like I was just asking if my upper jaw was normal!
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: needadvancement on July 30, 2016, 08:20:07 PM
I think your surgeon did a good job, your bone structure looks very nice now and your upperlip has that attractive curve going upwards. Profile especially has good facial harmony. I would move on with life if I was you.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: Lazlo on July 30, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
also i hope none of this is stressing you out. you look great. if you don't have any functional problems consider all fo this a resounding success. And you're very pretty.

I know some people on a plastic surgery forum and something I'm starting to realize is that internet discussion and analysis and dissection after surgery leads a lot of people to complete madness as well as filling them with all sorts of false information. In your case sure there are people on this forum who might nit pick with your face OR LITERALLY WITH ANY FACE PRESENTED HERE. So that doesn't mean a thing. Is your face unbalanaced as a result of surgery Not at all and you look great. That's it. You really don't need this forum. It's full of a lot of f**king losers anyway!  :-\
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 30, 2016, 09:26:08 PM
also i hope none of this is stressing you out. you look great. if you don't have any functional problems consider all fo this a resounding success. And you're very pretty.

I know some people on a plastic surgery forum and something I'm starting to realize is that internet discussion and analysis and dissection after surgery leads a lot of people to complete madness as well as filling them with all sorts of false information. In your case sure there are people on this forum who might nit pick with your face OR LITERALLY WITH ANY FACE PRESENTED HERE. So that doesn't mean a thing. Is your face unbalanaced as a result of surgery Not at all and you look great. That's it. You really don't need this forum. It's full of a lot of f**king losers anyway!  :-\
It's been stressing me out so much! But this is positive to hear as I've seen you are very honest on people's posts! I've noticed this as well, I've been fed all types of information that I'm not even sure what to believe anymore and I'm starting to become obsessed. I definitely did not care so much about every little facial detail til after surgery :/. I hope I go back to normal soon. Thanks for your honesty and kindness though :).
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: UnderMunch on July 31, 2016, 01:53:07 AM
I think you look great and absolutely wouldn't think about any other surgeries.

Your cheek bones don't seem flat to me and fit your face perfectly as they are. You have to remember that different lighting settings can really change the way you look a lot. Many features aren't visible at all if you are standing in a badly lit room, or if the light is coming from a weird angle.

No need to look into more surgeries!
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on July 31, 2016, 07:38:50 AM
I think you look great and absolutely wouldn't think about any other surgeries.

Your cheek bones don't seem flat to me and fit your face perfectly as they are. You have to remember that different lighting settings can really change the way you look a lot. Many features aren't visible at all if you are standing in a badly lit room, or if the light is coming from a weird angle.

No need to look into more surgeries!

Ok thank you. Based on my pictures, do my upper set of teeth look pushed back? That's my only concern as I hate when teeth aren't broad.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: Jawtothemax on August 03, 2016, 08:19:29 AM
You are so lucky your surgeon was so thoughtful about aesthetics. My daughter had Lefort 1 (2 piece) and the changes to her face are astounding and I am so angry at the surgeon. I waver back and forth between having hope that it will improve and feeling hopeless. You look wonderful.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on August 03, 2016, 08:47:10 AM
 
You are so lucky your surgeon was so thoughtful about aesthetics. My daughter had Lefort 1 (2 piece) and the changes to her face are astounding and I am so angry at the surgeon. I waver back and forth between having hope that it will improve and feeling hopeless. You look wonderful.

Wow I am so sorry that happened to her :(. What was her malocclusion and how many mm did the surgeon advance her? Sometimes I still think I needed upper jaw surgery because when I talk I feel like I have limited tooth show but then again I always think how a lefort could've been a really bad idea for me.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on August 04, 2016, 10:35:26 AM
You look very attractive. Don't understand why you would even consider a Lefort. Seeing your pics it would look (very) awkward on you. Seeking more projection when you already have good projection is a horrible idea.

I see your point. I guess I just don't think I have enough teeth projection and prominence front on and from the sides. I always thought having a farther projected maxilla would mean a better looking face. I'll attach pictures from before surgery and now. Last picture is my profile before surgery.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: baldguy83 on August 04, 2016, 11:08:12 AM
You look good girl. Solid midface projection, which is most important.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on August 04, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
You look good girl. Solid midface projection, which is most important.
Thanks I do appreciate that. I just feel like something still looks off about my face. Though my underbite was corrected my lower jaw still looks long and my lower lip still looks like it hangs before my upper lip. As you can see I look like the girls pre-op photo instead of her post op which looks like a more normal and balanced profile
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: baldguy83 on August 04, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
You look seriously stunning in that last picture. Love your lips, they're great. Don't worry about them.

The lower jaw might seem a bit large, but it does not look bad on you at all IMO. Do you have a front pic where you have your teeth properly meshed and lips closed (without straining)? Perhaps also a profile pic from a bit further off, so I can assess your whole face? You can use PM if you don't want to post more pictures here, though so far you don't seem to have a problem with that. I would advise not to keep photos posted in public for too long, but maybe that's just me.

Also, don't even think about having upper jaw surgery, let alone a Le Fort. Your midface has good projection already, it will only get ruined by such risky surgery.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: jawprobs16 on August 04, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
You look seriously stunning in that last picture. Love your lips, they're great. Don't worry about them.

The lower jaw might seem a bit large, but it does not look bad on you at all IMO. Do you have a front pic where you have your teeth properly meshed and lips closed (without straining)? Perhaps also a profile pic from a bit further off, so I can assess your whole face? You can use PM if you don't want to post more pictures here, though so far you don't seem to have a problem with that. I would advise not to keep photos posted in public for too long, but maybe that's just me.

Also, don't even think about having upper jaw surgery, let alone a Le Fort. Your midface has good projection already, it will only get ruined by such risky surgery.
Yupp. Here are some pictures.
Title: Re: Would I have looked like a chimp with upper jaw surgery?
Post by: baldguy83 on August 04, 2016, 03:34:31 PM
See PM.