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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Nataliepryor on September 16, 2014, 07:08:01 PM

Title: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 16, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
Today I had the torture device fitted  :P. was not quite as bad as I was expecting, except the amount of saliva I'm producing, which is similar to a four legged animal ::)

Anyway, surgery day tomorrow to have the expender activated and then it's expansion time, yay!

Anyone had this surgery?? Last minute tips would be appreciated!
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: treevernal on September 16, 2014, 07:26:46 PM
I did not have sarpe but I wish you the best of luck tomorrow!
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: sean89 on September 16, 2014, 07:33:17 PM
Good luck, please update us all with your progress.
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 16, 2014, 07:37:58 PM
Thank you.

I will be overnight tomorrow, will update afterwards for sure. 
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 19, 2014, 02:58:21 AM
Home from SARPE surgery!  A little sore and sorry, but surgeon said everything went great.

I am surprised how tight my nose and upper face feels, where as expander area and general mouth area is completely pain free. I turned it once today (day 2) thinking it would hurt, but no pain at all.

Swelling is pretty bad and sinus etc... Feels like I have been punched in the face, while I have a sinus infection  :o. Very low energy level.  I was told by day 4 things will be looking up.

On a good note, I had the best casserole  for dinner tonight, followed by raspberry jelly mmm

Been sent home with Endone, antibiotics, nose spray, neurofen.

Looking forward to scrambled eggs for breakfast tomorrow  :D

Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Modigliani on September 19, 2014, 03:25:53 AM
Yay, well done you!

The thought of expanding is much worse than the reality isn't it, I only experienced one painful turn but that was right near the end. How many mms are you aiming for?

You know about using ortho wax to create a 'fake tooth' when the gap appears? It's not perfect but it looks a look better than a whacking great black hole!

Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Optimistic on September 19, 2014, 08:08:36 AM
Home from SARPE surgery!  A little sore and sorry, but surgeon said everything went great.

I am surprised how tight my nose and upper face feels, where as expander area and general mouth area is completely pain free. I turned it once today (day 2) thinking it would hurt, but no pain at all.

Swelling is pretty bad and sinus etc... Feels like I have been punched in the face, while I have a sinus infection  :o. Very low energy level.  I was told by day 4 things will be looking up.

On a good note, I had the best casserole  for dinner tonight, followed by raspberry jelly mmm

Been sent home with Endone, antibiotics, nose spray, neurofen.

Looking forward to scrambled eggs for breakfast tomorrow  :D

Good to hear it all went well!
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: LoveofScotch on September 19, 2014, 08:48:49 AM
Really glad to hear you're doing well!
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 19, 2014, 03:38:48 PM
Oh great, where do you get the wax from??

I think my expansion is to be to 8mm -ish at this point.


Last night was a sleepless....felt nerves moving maybe?? Swelling has peaked. Feel tingling under my skin all the time.

Thanks everyone  ;)
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Modigliani on September 19, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
Ask your ortho for wax or you can buy it cheaply on Amazon.

Mine was 8mm, looked like a real Hillbilly without that wax in let me tell you  :o
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: sean89 on September 19, 2014, 03:45:44 PM
I don't know much about SARPE...did your upper jaw get slightly shorter from it (less gum/tooth show)?

And can the expander be activated by shortening the upper jaw? Or are they separate surgical techniques?

I'm glad it went well by the way and you're doing okay.
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 19, 2014, 05:32:29 PM
At the moment I'm so swollen I don't really know.

They have just separated the bone ...all about width of the upper arch and widening it.  Don't think it changes gum show etc....that will happen when I have double jaw surgery next year.

I hope DJS is not too much worse this feels pretty intense, I underestimated the procedure maybe??
Day 3 was always going to be rough and I'm just feeling a bit wounded, sorry if I sound like a downer!

Thanks for all your posts
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Gregor Samsa on September 19, 2014, 05:34:20 PM
Isn't SARPE supposed to be one of the toughest surgeries to endure?
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 19, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
Glad you say that, feels like it to me  :-[
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Mark32 on September 20, 2014, 11:31:19 AM
also really glad to hear everything went well. what exactly do the initials SARPE stand for? is it something rapid palate expansion?

Natalie, did you have any difficulties with nasal breathing/restriction in your upper airway before you went for surgery? it's just that i have and i'm wondering if a surgery like this can improve breathing through the nose?
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Modigliani on September 20, 2014, 11:52:02 AM
Surgically Assisted Rapid Palate Expansion

I think  :)
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Mark32 on September 20, 2014, 02:44:54 PM
how stable is the result from a SARPE? is there much bone resorption? and can it be combined with a le fort 1?

questions, questions...  ;)
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 20, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
I think it's pretty stable as the expander is left in for up to 9 months. The bone takes about 6 weeks to heal and I had to start expanding two days after surgery. The aim is that the expansion is finished before the bone has heeled.

I didn't get much in the way of nose bleeds. Breathing was fine, I was given oxygen to wear for first 24 hrs. Swelling was intense and it feels like I had a nose job because the cut they made in my gum is very high.

I have a very narrow nose, mouth breather, don't think any of that has changed since operation? Still very swollen so I can't clearly say ... On day 4.

Hope some of that helped, I'm pretty drugged up so sorry if I haven't answered everything   ;D
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 20, 2014, 11:02:10 PM

Surgically Assisted Rapid Palate Expansion

I think  :)
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Is correct.

The bone will heal to the newly expandered width, once it's healed I don't think it could be possible to relapse.
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 26, 2014, 03:47:48 AM
Ok, just a quick update... 7 days post SARPE surgery...

I'm feeling awesome
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Gregor Samsa on September 29, 2014, 05:13:42 AM
What's the timeframe for all of this? How long have you been in braces and when do you expect to have your next surgery (if you're going to have one)?
Title: Re: SARPE surgery tomorrow
Post by: Nataliepryor on September 30, 2014, 05:36:27 AM
Expander only so far...30 days expanding at home. Then braces (October-ish) until next year and approx 1 year form beginning I'm having double jaw surgery, total treatment time 18-24 months approx - Could be less I was told.

Next surgery estimated to be the same time next year so around August/September, this will depend on orthodontic results, quicker everything moves the earlier it is.

My surgeon said the orthodontist will refer me back to him next year ..maybe first quarter of the year for some pre op preparation. Eeek this is really going to happen!