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Title: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on April 21, 2016, 09:29:05 AM
Hi,
I had double jaw surgery 11 weeks ago and I just did not expect my face to look so different. I'm not sure how much swelling comes into place because I don't know how much swelling is actually left, but I honestly don't recognise myself anymore and I felt MUCH more confident before the surgery. My nose was way sharper before (which weirdly makes so much difference!). I was wondering if anyone has felt the same way as me and found that time resolved this? Thanks!

*Sorry for the zoom in the pics, had to crop out the background
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Rico on April 21, 2016, 10:41:10 AM
the worst you can do is to put comparison photos, where at one you are smiled at the other not ;)

for sure some swelling... too early to judge
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: needadvancement on April 21, 2016, 02:29:25 PM
It's hard to tell what you mean, the pictures are all with different poses and lighting, and we also can't see your profile.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on April 21, 2016, 03:56:49 PM
Yeah you guys are right, sorry rookie mistake! I'll take another one once I'm back home  :)
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Dharma on May 11, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
Right there with you--I'm 8 weeks out and the esthetic results suuuuuuuuuuck. 

It is truly incredible how even subtle nose changes can radically alter the entire gestalt of the face--I too lost a nice sharp nose in my battle with jaw surgery.
 
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: JawKid7 on May 12, 2016, 12:41:05 PM
I'm 7 months post op and no one recognizes me lol
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Rikenen on May 12, 2016, 03:19:52 PM
I'm 7 months post op and no one recognizes me lol


What did you have done? Movements etc?
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: LyraM45 on May 15, 2016, 08:18:01 PM
That is the thing with this surgery, soft tissue changes can not be predicted with high confidence and guaranteed for the better.  I personally prefer my old face before surgery, but honestly even if I a not a huge fan of some of the aesthetic changes, it was a fair price to pay to make my bite class I and functional.  Did your functional issues get resolved?

You're also 3 months out.  Give it time and things will settle more, but in general at 3 months you should get starting to get an idea of where things will be. 
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: PloskoPlus on May 15, 2016, 09:15:52 PM
The final look is pretty much obvious at the 8 week mark. Whatever changes remain due to outstanding swelling will be minor.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: LyraM45 on May 16, 2016, 05:35:58 PM
The final look is pretty much obvious at the 8 week mark. Whatever changes remain due to outstanding swelling will be minor.

I'd say that is mostly true, but especially for my nose in both of my surgeries, that had some pretty significant changes still up until 7-8 months post op.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on June 22, 2016, 04:32:41 PM
wow didn't think this post would get anymore replies! I decided to put it off for a while and just be patient because I didn't want to get obsessive over the whole appearance thing. 5 months in and I'm still quite unhappy with the result (wider nose, longer/protruding upper lip) but it is what it is, at least I have a good bite now, here are some photos!!! I tried to make them more similar this time but im s**t at this so go easy  ::) :)
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: cantstop on June 22, 2016, 04:54:01 PM
honestly i barely see any difference from the front, if anything you look better in the after pics. and your profile obviously is a major improvement. i don't see what you are talking about

how many mms was your upper jaw advanced btw?
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on June 22, 2016, 05:35:48 PM
honestly i barely see any difference from the front, if anything you look better in the after pics. and your profile obviously is a major improvement. i don't see what you are talking about

how many mms was your upper jaw advanced btw?

I agree that my profile looks much better now, but the frontal/facial difference looks less subtle than it actually is bc selfies don't really show the full changes to your face, compared to real life or candid pics, I would've used candids instead but I don't have any rn. And 5mm or 6 don't remember  :)
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on June 22, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
That is the thing with this surgery, soft tissue changes can not be predicted with high confidence and guaranteed for the better.  I personally prefer my old face before surgery, but honestly even if I a not a huge fan of some of the aesthetic changes, it was a fair price to pay to make my bite class I and functional.  Did your functional issues get resolved?

You're also 3 months out.  Give it time and things will settle more, but in general at 3 months you should get starting to get an idea of where things will be.

Did the aesthetic changes affect you much psychologically?
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: ditterbo on June 22, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Alrighty here's my blunt take on those before/after's.. you look a little different, not better or worse, from the front.  I think it's mostly from your cheeks looking fuller and the wider appearing nose tip.  From every other angle though, I bet you look much improved because you had a pretty strong underbite look before. 
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on June 22, 2016, 07:11:39 PM
I agree that my profile looks much better now, but the frontal/facial difference looks less subtle than it actually is bc selfies don't really show the full changes to your face, compared to real life or candid pics, I would've used candids instead but I don't have any rn. And 5mm or 6 don't remember  :)

s**t I meant more subtle***
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: janeljy16 on June 22, 2016, 07:32:52 PM
Alrighty here's my blunt take on those before/after's.. you look a little different, not better or worse, from the front.  I think it's mostly from your cheeks looking fuller and the wider appearing nose tip.  From every other angle though, I bet you look much improved because you had a pretty strong underbite look before.

you're so right about the cheeks, I never noticed that
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: JimmyTheGent on June 24, 2016, 07:30:04 AM
Your nose looks fine both before and after.  I was expecting to see a dramatic difference when I first read this post but there isn't.  If your nose changed appearence it is hardly noticeable. You look awesome. 
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: LyraM45 on July 22, 2016, 06:14:38 AM
Did the aesthetic changes affect you much psychologically?

Does it bug me a bit?  Sure.  I'd be lying if I said it didn't.  I do look in the mirror and have trouble wrapping my brain around the fact that my old face is gone.  There is no undoing what has been done to get that back.  Even when changes are for the better, that is a hard thing to wrap your brain around.  Change is still change.  But, I remember I signed up for this.  I understood this was a risk.  And on those days where I hate things like how wide my nose got, I just remind myself it was payment for the functional bite and I can kind of quickly get over it.  I have a feeling with time everything will settle and become the new normal for me.  I believe that is true for most people.  It just takes time.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Lazlo on August 26, 2016, 11:26:52 AM
The final look is pretty much obvious at the 8 week mark. Whatever changes remain due to outstanding swelling will be minor.

I'm not sure you can extrapolate from your single jaw surgery results to make a claim about double jaw surgery. Even though I'm inclined to agree with you I think there's some pretty resistant swelling that warps results. I'd say 90 percent of cosmetic improvement is there at 3 months.

However, for nerve regeneration I'd say a year. And I say that because I was in some crazy fights where my face was hit and the nerves didn't get back to 100 percent till a year's end. And that was just a blow. Now think of the trauma of double jaw surgery where your bones and flesh is cut up on a butcher's block and stretched around. That should at least take a year.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: PloskoPlus on August 26, 2016, 09:32:25 PM
I'm not sure you can extrapolate from your single jaw surgery results to make a claim about double jaw surgery. Even though I'm inclined to agree with you I think there's some pretty resistant swelling that warps results. I'd say 90 percent of cosmetic improvement is there at 3 months.

However, for nerve regeneration I'd say a year. And I say that because I was in some crazy fights where my face was hit and the nerves didn't get back to 100 percent till a year's end. And that was just a blow. Now think of the trauma of double jaw surgery where your bones and flesh is cut up on a butcher's block and stretched around. That should at least take a year.
I was talking about the aesthetic result only. Upper jaw surgery nerves - sensation in teeth, gums, lips - 18 months is the limit. At least that's what the textbooks say.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Lazlo on August 27, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
I was talking about the aesthetic result only. Upper jaw surgery nerves - sensation in teeth, gums, lips - 18 months is the limit. At least that's what the textbooks say.

yeah fair enough i'd agree with that.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: Lazlo on September 11, 2016, 06:35:56 PM
I'm 7 months post op and no one recognizes me lol

god i wish i had that result --i'm the opposite everyone thinks i look the same or worse.
Title: Re: Aesthetic regret after jaw surgery *UPDATED
Post by: JawKid7 on September 12, 2016, 05:55:08 PM
from what I've seen people who have really bad underbites are the ones who look the most different after surgery