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General Category => Emotional Support => Topic started by: Albie94 on May 19, 2014, 07:40:41 AM
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Hi guys, I'm very sad about my experience with jaw surgery.
I'm 19 years old and I got le fort I osteotomy 5 weeks ago to correct my underbite. My lower jaw is asymmetrycal and the surgeon didn't perform surgery on it because he thought that I could live just fine with it. At the beginning I was supposed to get upper jaw advancement and lower jaw reduction but he changed his plan three weekes before the surgery. he was like: "you're a tall guy, you've got big shoulders, I dont see you with a smaller lower jaw" he also promised my he was gonna fill my cheeck bones with some of my fat to armonize my new face, wich has been ruined.
I cry everyday, I can't even look at myself in the mirror.
He inclinated my upper jaw on one side to match with my lower, wich is asymmetrycal so both of them are now messed up.
When I asked him about the middle line of my teeth wich doesnt match anymore with the middle line of my face he told me it was fine and so I thought I was crazy.
two weeks later as the swelling went down I went to his office and I told me that something was wrong and he told me that he decentrate my upper jaw to fit my lower jaw, but he never told me that I was gonna look this asymmetrycal after the surgery, otherwise I wouldn't have done it.
he told me that he's willing to fix my jaw with a double jaw surgery after the summer but I dont wanna see him anymore, I seriously would be able to hurt him with my same hands.
he moved my upper jaw foward 10 millimeters and now I have and overbite and both of my jaws are slanted on the left side of my face.
Did anyone have my same experience? Should I look for another sorgeon and fix the problem asap or just wait till my bones are completely healed?
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Your surgeon sounds like a dick, I'm not surprised you don't want him touching your face again.
Are there any other surgeons in your area that you could get second and third opinions from?
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here's pics of my x-rays and my cepth's numbers
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yeah There's one wich I e-mailed today..but I live in Sardinia, wich is a small italian island...Im gonna go talk to another one that works in Verona..a friend of mine told me he worked on cases like mine wich were treated in the wrong way...
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Sandro Pelo has a good reputation, he's in Rome I think.
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I'll look for him as well, thanks for giving me his name...
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No the x-rays are after surgery
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Can we see some pictures of your face please?
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Sandro Pelo has a good reputation, he's in Rome I think.
Yeah if you're in Italy go see this guy. He has a very good rep.
Raffaini seems decent too but some say he cherry picks results.
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Can we see some pictures of your face please?
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I see what you mean but it's more noticeable on the x-ray weirdly. You have attractive features and the eye tends to be drawn to them, not the slightly crooked jaws.
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I see what you mean but it's more noticeable on the x-ray weirdly. You have attractive features and the eye tends to be drawn to them, not the slightly crooked jaws.
thanks for the compliment but I cannot live my life with this problem. I just hope to fine a skilled surgeon that is able to fix both of my jaws..I'm also thinking about getting rinoplasty because my nose got bigger after surgery...or do you think that is going to go back to the way it was before if I get my upper jaw pulled backward a little bit?
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thanks for the compliment but I cannot live my life with this problem. I just hope to fine a skilled surgeon that is able to fix both of my jaws..I'm also thinking about getting rinoplasty because my nose got bigger after surgery...or do you think that is going to go back to the way it was before if I get my upper jaw pulled backward a little bit?
In theory your nose should narrow if the maxilla is moved backwards, whether that actually happens in practice I don't know. BUT, you're only 5 weeks out and I can promise you that it will become smaller over the next few months - that area tends to hold onto swelling the longest for some reason. Concentrate on getting the jaws sorted out first, any rhinoplasty should be done afterwards.
Do let us know how you get on with your consultations, there are a few of us looking for revision surgery and we're always keen to hear about skilled surgeons.
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It's scary how many oral surgeons practice orthognathic surgery without knowing what they are doing. A surgeon I talked to a while ago told me that in the past (not so distant) only TOP surgeons would go on to do orthognathic cases, and there were not many. It was a field that attracted the very best. Nowadays, it's so much more commonplace and it attracts all sorts of butchers.
On the other hand, there are no guarantees. My surgeon was supposed to be "top" and I ended up in a very bad state.
As far as crying every day...mi sembri un ragazzo molto simpatico e intelligente. Non c'e' bisogno di essere cosi avvilito e demoralizzato. Troverai una soluzione.
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It's scary how many oral surgeons practice orthognathic surgery without knowing what they are doing. A surgeon I talked to a while ago told me that in the past (not so distant) only TOP surgeons would go on to do orthognathic cases, and there were not many. It was a field that attracted the very best. Nowadays, it's so much more commonplace and it attracts all sorts of butchers.
On the other hand, there are no guarantees. My surgeon was supposed to be "top" and I ended up in a very bad state.
As far as crying every day...mi sembri un ragazzo molto simpatico e intelligente. Non c'e' bisogno di essere cosi avvilito e demoralizzato. Troverai una soluzione.
Heyy! I spoke to another surgeon the pther day and he told me that he has neven seen a bad case like mine..there's just no logic in what my old surgon has done to me.I also spoke to another ortho anf he told me that my teethe weren't ready at all for the surgery, so I'll have to go through a really intense orthognatic process before a get a second surgery...they both told me that if I keep my mouth like this I wont ever be able to chew well and that I will lose most of my teeth, especially my molars because I've got 1 cm gap between my upper and lower arch...
They also told me not to worry because everything is fixable and I will be totally fine!
Grazie per il complimento:) coninuo a essere positivo nonostante la brutta esperienza, non mi lascio rovinare la vita per colpa di un errore altrui
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Well that is good news. Did he say what he was going to do?
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coninuo a essere positivo nonostante la brutta esperienza, non mi lascio rovinare la vita per colpa di un errore altrui
That's the spirit.
Did you contact Sandro Pelo by any chance? I've been thinking about making an appointment with him some time in future in case my TAD treatment doesn't feel quite right (hopefully not).
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In theory your nose should narrow if the maxilla is moved backwards, whether that actually happens in practice I don't know. BUT, you're only 5 weeks out and I can promise you that it will become smaller over the next few months - that area tends to hold onto swelling the longest for some reason. Concentrate on getting the jaws sorted out first, any rhinoplasty should be done afterwards.
Do let us know how you get on with your consultations, there are a few of us looking for revision surgery and we're always keen to hear about skilled surgeons.
But you are assuming the surgeon did an alar cinch. He may have not. In which case, those muscles are just hanging there.
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But you are assuming the surgeon did an alar cinch. He may have not. In which case, those muscles are just hanging there.
Even if there is no alar cinch, at 5 weeks there's still going to be a ton of swelling in that area which will be contributing to the increased width.
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Even if there is no alar cinch, at 5 weeks there's still going to be a ton of swelling in that area which will be contributing to the increased width.
my nose got so big after the surgery! I spoke to a new surgeon and he tokd me that I will need double jaw surgery to really fix my case...none of my teeth touch now and I'm always in pain, I have really terrible headaches all the long and I can't even chew correctly...my life just got worse
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Here's me now. Im the tall guy...I cannot tell if I still have swelling left or not on my cheecks
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Very nice 8)
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You look good. Do you have a casual photo like that before your operation?
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You look good. Do you have a casual photo like that before your operation?
This one is from before...I think I looked better before, my nose was thiner, but I had an underbite and I was always flrcing myself to look good in pics...but now I also have a gummy smile because of the inclination of my upper jaw, wich is driving me crazy. I dont even wanna smile anymore..it's so frustrating and I cant wait to get the right surgery again..I never felt depressed in my life before but now I really am...sometimes I think I just can't handle it
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This one is from before...I think I looked better before, my nose was thiner, but I had an underbite and I was always flrcing myself to look good in pics...but now I also have a gummy smile because of the inclination of my upper jaw, wich is driving me crazy. I dont even wanna smile anymore..it's so frustrating and I cant wait to get the right surgery again..I never felt depressed in my life before but now I really am...sometimes I think I just can't handle it
I find it hard to believe that you have an underbite in that club photo. I'm serious.
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I find it hard to believe that you have an underbite in that club photo. I'm serious.
I've forced myself to look at the pic several times :-[ and I don't see any hint of an underbite either, it's weird.
Maybe his full lips are masking it?
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I've forced myself to look at the pic several times :-[ and I don't see any hint of an underbite either, it's weird.
Maybe his full lips are masking it?
wait, I think I confused you!!! The pic of my before it didn't load, I just checked..I'm gonna try to post it now
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It's hard to see anything in frontal pictures. Do you have one from the side?
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So far you look good in both pictures. In the pre-op pictures the underbite is obvious.
In the post-op I do not see the problem. You look good. I also tried lining up your midline with your philtrum and it looks like they line up. So maybe something shows up on your xray but from the outside I don't see the misalignment.
I would just be careful about getting another surgery. The outside appearance is what matters so much, isn't it? There are a lot of people who had something wrong in their xray, went to get a surgery, and then the xray and the bite was perfect but they looked like s**t on the outside.
I experienced this with my first round of orthodontics. I had a palatial expander which lined up my teeth but it changed my whole face shape in a negative way. Originally I had a very delicate feminine face, but with the expander it widened the top part of my face but not the lower. So I now had a wider nose, weird looking midface, worse retrognathia...but my lower jaw and chin were still so small that I was disproportional. But my bite and xray were good! But it doesn't matter how great your teeth are if you feel ugly.
So with how good you look right now...I think if I were you I would just leave it alone. Just my thought.
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So with how good you look right now...I think if I were you I would just leave it alone. Just my thought.
He said he is now in constant pain. He has a really obvious bimaxillary cant as well after his first surgery, look at his first picture.
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It's not even about my look anymore, I'm having double jaw surgery for sure to fix the huge mess I have in my mouth. I have beem left with a severe posterior bite, only one of my teeth is touching on the front. It's crazy..I can't even chew. Im working with a new equipe of surgeons and orthos with apparently is one of the best here in italy and I saw they work really hard and they're really professional. Im having to were a bite now to relax my muscles and my joints and in september I'll be getting my braces back on. The autolegible ones, wich are the new kind and people told mw they work better and faster....my jaw are both canted, especially my top one...aesthetically there's no big deal, but I would do anything to go back to the way I was...I just feel really destroyed.
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Who is your new surgeon?
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One of the surgeons from the equipe of Pier Francesco Nocini