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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: LoveofScotch on March 26, 2015, 10:41:15 AM
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His name has been brought up a bit recently, so I wanted people to know he apparently retired in December.
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Ya sucks but supposedly his surgeries cost up to $100k plus other surgeons are most likely capable of performing this procedure.
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That woman's scleral show vanished in the after pretty impressive.
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Smiling raises the lower eyelid
Yeah but I'm looking at mine and the sceral show is there when I smile and I got it less severe than her before picture.
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He trained many docs to do the procedure. Also, it's not like any of you were gonna pay 100 grand.
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I'd happily pay 100 grand to fix this misery.
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well then just contact mayo, there are other people who can do the quad lefort 2 .
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I am soooo upset he retired! I was just logging on to see if he was still at Mayo. He did my TMJ Christensen Fossa in 1999 after 50 different doctors turned me away saying my case was too advanced for them including the "famed"Dr. Piper in Florida. I am having quite a bit of new problems and was hoping to have to him see if there was anything more that could be done for me. I guess I will have to see if anyone there can help me or if I am on the search again for anyone who will attempt to treat me.
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Who ever has his email, message him and ask him who he thinks are the top 5 best surgeons in the US or Europe who he feels are capable of performing the quad le fort and other procedures up to his standards. something like that.
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That hair style wasn't doing her any favors either. I joked with one surgeon that I'd pay $100k to never have had this problem in the first place. No takers yet.
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If you're living in the U.S. with health insurance, Mayo can be an affordable option (all things considered).
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If you're living in the U.S. with health insurance, Mayo can be an affordable option (all things considered).
How much is health insurance in the US? How are they still in business with such medical costs?
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They're in business cause we have the money and it's damn worth it. I'd pay out of pocket if I had to.
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Expensive, it's expensive. I have what's considered a "Cadillac plan" with a rather unfortunate monthly premium, and also a yearly deductible. Our health care costs have exploded (although I would imagine this is occurring pretty much everywhere), and there's no end in sight. Everyone is aging, sick, fat, being diagnosed with cancer, needing new body parts, falling apart, and living a long damn time. It's a recipe for disaster, and health care costs have been responding accordingly (or something like that).
The good thing about Mayo is they operate as an "in-network" provider, assuming you live in the U.S. and have insurance (they work with many/most insurance companies). A/G, for example, practice "out-of-network" with ALL insurance companies (the hospital they use, etc. are separate and potentially "in-network" depending on your specific insurance). For me, Keller would've been a fraction of the cost of Gunson.
I also know nothing about the quad LeFort (or whatever it's called), so maybe that's different from a cost perspective.
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So how much is a Cadillac plan? For the record, in Australia, insurance only covers hospital fees (which for some reason includes hardware like plates and screws). Government Medicare covers a fraction of the surgeon's and anaesthesiologist's fees.
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Interesting about insurance in Australia; I didn't know that.
I'll send you a PM, PP.
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Our health care costs have exploded (although I would imagine this is occurring pretty much everywhere), and there's no end in sight.
The main reason why the healthcare costs are so high in the US is because the entire system is corrupt. Hospitals pay as much as a 10,000% premium on stuff just because they're required by law to use "health grade" stuff and money is siphoned away in every step of the process. Americans spend almost twice as much on healthcare per capita compared to other developed countries but what do you get back in return?
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Corrupt isn't the right word, inefficient. We're actually twice as expensive as the next most expensive country, Germany. Consumer Reports did a nice analysis during the Obamacare debate and the growth largely came in 3 categories: doctors, drugs, and hospitals. Others say it's because we put too much effort into the last 1-2 years of life.
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Corrupt isn't the right word, inefficient. We're actually twice as expensive as the next most expensive country, Germany. Consumer Reports did a nice analysis during the Obamacare debate and the growth largely came in 3 categories: doctors, drugs, and hospitals. Others say it's because we put too much effort into the last 1-2 years of life.
Too many entities wanting a piece of the pie. It's a mess and it's only getting worse. You can't leave out insurances companies, although Obamacare tried to address some if it, it's not making the problem any better.
I'm actually of the opinion that most doctors deserve their high pay, the cost of becoming a physician in the US is huge and the cost of spending so many years to become on without making much of an income adds up. Money is actually why some surgeons choose not to be in network with any provider, the insurance companies simply do not pay them enough. Sure A&G have inflated rates, but I have seen surgeons with very reasonable rates that choose not to be in network with any provider.
The problem now with Obamacare is, a lot of insurance policies are revising their exclusionary criteria for covering jaw surgery, and it's going in the direction that fewer people will be granted coverage as the criteria is becoming stricter. There are state by state mandates that regulate what insurance companies can do and what they can deny, however, I don't think many of them address jaw surgery. In general, insurance companies will not want to pay, they aren't there to hand out money.