Hey daftones,
If it's at all meaningful, my husband had braces when we first met. I was 20, and he was 23 at the time. I found him adorable, braces and all.
As for your surgery, have you asked your doctors about changes to your nose w/upper surgery? I had lower jaw sx only, but many have commented on upturned noses with forward and/or upward movement to upper jaw. Your nose is good now, so it may be something to ask about.
Hey, I just had surgery done for the exact same reason! Lower jaw 9mm advancement + genioplasty.
I am 11 days post-op, doing awesome. Once the swelling went down (day 5) I knew that it was a complete success. I am breathing completely clear throughout the night. No snoring! I can't even force a giggle-snort.
Dark circles and under-eye puffiness greatly diminished (an unexpected, pleasant improvement). Even for daytime, improved airway function is noticeable. Get less winded doing physical tasks.
Best decision of my life!
...and the improvement to facial aesthetics is a nice bonus.
Good luck to you with your surgery, hope you enjoy similar succes!
my nose is a bit up turned already, and I have been thinking the same thing. I am going to have a huge movement, my surgeon says. When I go in to see him in a few days I will ask about this. Rather have a weird nose than snoring and double chinned, though.
I'll leave this up for a bit.
There is of course still some swelling/bruising/numbness, it is only day 11. ;D Also, I am wearing some makeup in the afters, so the results look a bit more stunning than they might au naturel.
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Did you have any movement in your upper jaw or know how many mm you had moved for your genio?
You look hot! I hope to have results like you.Thanks! I'm sure you'll be happy/relieved. I wish I'd done this in my early 20s...so many years wasted. No more afternoon napping!.
just wondering if you have had extraction in the bottom teeth ? maybe this has limited them in the advancement of your lower jaw.
I am also wondering that from your previous pic you seem to have normal bite I mean your top and bottom teeth sit together perfectly when closed. How did they advanced your lower jaw without advancing your upper jaw. There is something I don't understand.
Like for my case I had an overjet which was comuflaged with 2 upper teeth extraction and got my protrusive front teeth back. I think I have normal bite and don't feel any pain. So for me If I want to have my lower jaw to be advanced I will need to advance the upper too ? Does this make sense ?
Thanks! I'm sure you'll be happy/relieved. I wish I'd done this in my early 20s...so many years wasted. No more afternoon napping!.
Prior to the start of all this, with back teeth together, I could fit my pinky between the top and bottom front.
looking pretty good for a week
What was the movement for your maxillary impaction? 4mm?
So you had 10mm jaw + 6 genio?
So you were due to have a larger movement previously. With the impaction that original movement would have looked truly huge. Was it your surgeons idea to reduce it in case of complications/numbness? The movement you had would be considered large by most surgeons, is that kind of change standard for sleep apnea?
I don't really have a big overbite by the way. I had teeth pulled out when I was a kid and my upper jaw reduced, so now I have two small jaws. I don't understand why orthodontists consider this a good result, or why the bastards don't think about the fact that people have to go through life looking like that when they could be helped with surgery. My jaws basically look like yours before the operation, except I have a naturally thin/lightweight skeleton, as you can imagine my head looks tiny . Heads just look wrong with small jaws.
Man I can feel your pain about the never looking masculine comment. Who said that a dentist? I guess that's why you took up lifting, to change things/prove people wrong. Well at least no one can say anything like that to you now you changed it. Well done.
Are you going to bite the bullet and go through jaw surgery? Our cases seem identical, and would probably proceed the same way.
As for my chin:
They weren't able to move my chin the distance they wanted (thin bone), and thus it was moved half the distance wanted. I talked to my surgeon today, and he said that he can finish my chin for free, in the fall. I just need to develop hard bone before he can chop it again! I am excited, as I am not overly impressed with the result currently.
Daf, has your recovery been easier or harder than anticipated? Is the recovery as bad as people say (assuming no complications)?
Also, do you have numbness or tingling in the chin area?
Yes, I do hope to get jaw surgery. I'm going the sleep apnea route too. At the moment I'm using a CPAP machine. I have to prove that I can not tolerate that therapy before I can move on to other procedures, like jaw surgery.
Before I decided on jaw surgery I was looking into genioplastys done as a lone surgery. I saw some before and after shots of a guy who used to have a very weak chin, basically no chin at all. He had a double genio where they make two cuts to the bone at the same time, and use two sets of plates and screws. He had it moved forward about 9mm with a couple of mm downward movement. The after shots looked really good, strong chin, strong jawline. If you're not happy with your chin maybe ask for an extra couple of mm of downward movement. In my opinion your jawline looks good now but I can understand your feelings about your chin.
Sounds like you have a few hoops to jump through. Mine was fairly straightforward, as Canadian healthcare takes a majority of the fees. How is the CPAP? Sounds like the worst thing for a young guy to have :(
The double cut genio sounds intense- I have heard of some peoples chins being so delicate after that the surgeon put a 'do not touch' post it note on the chin. My surgeon manhandles my chin when I go see him, so I assume he thinks its in a stable position.
Daf...... I think your chin looks great as is. Not everybody needs or looks good in super chins.
True ... Totally up to the individual. I'm sure he'll look great either way. Big thing is that his airway is bigger now. That alone will be a big life changer. The extra geinio should be a piece of cake after going through the double jaw surgery.