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General Category => Aesthetics => Topic started by: improvedchin on July 17, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
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Long story short, I have a weak jawline from profile view even though I am a thin person. My face also looks very wide from certain angles, so it looks like a big round face. I've had a sliding genioplasty done and was advanced 7mm. I've also had my buccal pads removed. I look pretty hollow sometimes, but I don't think I look that angular and I also have some problems with my face lacking definition.
Here are some photos. Anyone have any advice as to what could be done to help improve the overall appearance while maybe adding some angularity and reducing the wideness? I am not interested in implants.
https://imgur.com/a/UnyIqpl
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Your face doesn't look wide to me.
What is your bite like? You are asking purely for aesthetic reasons? You should consult with a surgeon and see what they say.
Bimax for purely aesthetic reasons is dangerous and drastic; it's a cost-benefit ratio.
Did you have all of your buccal fat removed?? How much did you pay and who did it?
You look normal man, honestly, even above average. Don't go down this route if you don't have to.
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I've had aligners for a few years so my bite is pretty good. My teeth are still crooked in some ways but I was planning on addressing that later.
I had all my buccal fat removed years back thinking that I could get a more chiseled look. In some angles, my cheeks are very hollow and I have that depth between my cheek bones and jawline, so I guess that's a plus? My only issue is I have to maintain a really low body weight to not look wide in the face. Hard to explain, but I would say the contour in my face is pretty good even at higher weights, but the width and lack of angularity of the outline / frame is not. I'm guessing it's because I have very wide cheekbones. Not sure if this is something people commonly correct.
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Why is your skin is flawless in some photos but in the other it is not? In the event the middle pic is the accurate one regarding skin condition, I would prioritize skin care/improvement (via cosmetic derm things) over angularity.
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My skin sucks because of years of terrible acne throughout my teen years. I even get occasional pimples now, though not nearly as bad as before. The scars are difficult to deal with. Many doctors have told me that I should be careful with treatment since hyper pigmentation can be possible. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Your face doesn't look wide. If anything it looks narrow due to the angle of your jaws, but that's not a bad thing. It's a growth pattern seen in a lot of people. I obviously dont know what you looked like prior to your genioplasty, but you look normal in the provided pictures. I see no reason why you should feel the need for surgey where it's not warranted.
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buccal fat pad removal is one of the worst aesthetic procedures there is. in fact it should be banned. it never leads to definition but just to an atrophied hollow look that looks terrible.
anyway you look fine. Nothing can be done aesthetically to improve you except to improve your skin texture. Have you tried dermabrasion or juverderm injections etc. to refine your acne scars?
I have them pretty bad too so I empathize brah.
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buccal fat pad removal is one of the worst aesthetic procedures there is. in fact it should be banned. it never leads to definition but just to an atrophied hollow look that looks terrible.
anyway you look fine. Nothing can be done aesthetically to improve you except to improve your skin texture. Have you tried dermabrasion or juverderm injections etc. to refine your acne scars?
I have them pretty bad too so I empathize brah.
I've been thinking of unilateral buccal fat removal, but not the entire fat pad, and only because one side of my face is thinner than the other. Will look into fat grafts too.
Have you tried dermarolling with microneedles and also skin peels? I read recently that dermarolling can increase collagen production and help even out scars, skin peels too. Also looking into retinol A. Dont even have bad skin just trying to delay the aging process and look young enough to bang prime poose for as long as possible lol
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buccal fat pad removal is one of the worst aesthetic procedures there is.
Did you have it done?
I remember that guy "Jay"(?) had it done with Arnett years ago and hated the result. Claimed it ruined his face. He never posted a photo, though.
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Did you have it done?
I remember that guy "Jay"(?) had it done with Arnett years ago and hated the result. Claimed it ruined his face. He never posted a photo, though.
yup, got talked into doing it. something i need to get reversed big time.
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Every before and after of buccal fat removal I've seen you can barely see the difference; is it really that noticeable in real life?
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Microdermabrasion, does it work well for acne scars? I have deep acne scars. I'm honestly not sure what treatment to undergo for this.
I think my face isn't wide as it is, but when I gain even a little bit of weight it looks a lot wider or chubbier. I'll try to get a picture of it when I was heavier. I'm really skinny right now so my face looks thin, but I'm wondering how I could maintain a slightly higher weight while keeping the slim face. One doctor mentioned I could reduce my cheekbones a bit. I do think that I have huge cheekbones especially compared to my jaw. Any opinions?
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Microdermabrasion, does it work well for acne scars? I have deep acne scars. I'm honestly not sure what treatment to undergo for this.
I think my face isn't wide as it is, but when I gain even a little bit of weight it looks a lot wider or chubbier. I'll try to get a picture of it when I was heavier. I'm really skinny right now so my face looks thin, but I'm wondering how I could maintain a slightly higher weight while keeping the slim face. One doctor mentioned I could reduce my cheekbones a bit. I do think that I have huge cheekbones especially compared to my jaw. Any opinions?
Only laser resurfacing and chemical peels work for acne scars, and usually several rounds of treatment is needed. Many doctors don't like chemical peels because they're considered unpredictable. You can also get filler. Microdermabrasion is too mild for acne scars, and it's used to improve the overall look, feel and tone of the skin.
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Only laser resurfacing and chemical peels work for acne scars, and usually several rounds of treatment is needed. Many doctors don't like chemical peels because they're considered unpredictable. You can also get filler. Microdermabrasion is too mild for acne scars, and it's used to improve the overall look, feel and tone of the skin.
Second this. A friend did laser resurfacing and the results were significant.
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Microdermabrasion, does it work well for acne scars? I have deep acne scars. I'm honestly not sure what treatment to undergo for this.
I think my face isn't wide as it is, but when I gain even a little bit of weight it looks a lot wider or chubbier. I'll try to get a picture of it when I was heavier. I'm really skinny right now so my face looks thin, but I'm wondering how I could maintain a slightly higher weight while keeping the slim face. One doctor mentioned I could reduce my cheekbones a bit. I do think that I have huge cheekbones especially compared to my jaw. Any opinions?
Get jacked and maintain low body fat. Increase the size of your neck, traps and shoulders. Basically start lifting.
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Here's a pic of me when I was several pounds heavier, but still had a fairly lean body. My face looks wide and chubby but I don't think much of that is fat to be honest.
https://imgur.com/a/2LJNPBh
I used to lift a lot but it didn't do much aesthetically because I have short stubby arms that bulk up and look odd. I'm only about average height so a bulkier appearance doesn't work too well for me. Really sucks since I enjoy lifting weights.
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From what I can see you look really good dude. I don't think you need anything except some skin improvement.
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buccal fat pad removal is one of the worst aesthetic procedures there is. in fact it should be banned. it never leads to definition but just to an atrophied hollow look that looks terrible.
anyway you look fine. Nothing can be done aesthetically to improve you except to improve your skin texture. Have you tried dermabrasion or juverderm injections etc. to refine your acne scars?
I have them pretty bad too so I empathize brah.
That's because buccal fat removal has only a 33% chance of getting JUST the 'right' amount out and a 66% chance of it not being just the 'right' amount. It's like this:
Ya never know what SIZE the thing is and for the most part they like to pop the buccal part of it out in one piece. (It yields itself to that.)
Let's say the thing can be:
a: BIG
b: small
c: just the 'right' size that needs to be removed for ideal 'suck in' to the cheeks.
Possible Outcomes:
IF it's BIG as in too big, removal can leave one gaunt. = Unhappy outcome
If it's small, as in too small, removal won't even be noticible= Unhappy outcome
ONLY IF it's the 'right' size that fits the excess to the cheek will it = happy outcome
Since each outcome has 1/3 chance (33 %) chance, you got a 66% chance of being UNHAPPY with it because 2 possible outcomes are unhappy. Hence ONLY a 33% chance of being happy with it.
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it also depends on where the buccal fat is in relation to your own anatomy and your cheekbone.
in my case no amount was "right" because it just leaves this gouged our scooped out appearance that looks as if some made an impression with a golf ball in what was otherwise a perfectly fine cheek structure.
also we all lose fat in our face rapidly by the time you hit forty and it gets worse there are actually dozens of these little fat pads throughout our face at our temples forehead etc. etc. and if you get it done young, suppose it even looks good (which it most probably won't) you then will look like s**t at 40 and after.
people with that S shape model look have prominent cheekbones, that then move done to perfectly placed maxilla and that are stretch in an opposing direction by the perfect gonial and jaw angles.
Its a very difficult look to get through surgery (if even possible) and definitely out of abilities of even expert surgeons.
Listen, natural beauty is astonishing to us precisely because its so rare and hard to get. So it shouldn't be something you even aim for. You can try to fudge it with Sailer like implants and you will end up looking like a freak. Dude, you look good. Don't do this to yourself. Let it go and work on other aspects of your life.
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My face looks pretty gaunt in the center too. I'm guessing it's from the buccal fat removal. I do agree that it sort of takes away from a youthful look. When I got it done years ago, I was hoping for a more narrow / slimmer appearance, but all it managed to do was create what resembles a hole in the frontal portion of my cheeks. Can buccal fat removal even be reversed at all?
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Everyone looks better when they add muscle and drop bodyfat, you probably weren't anywhere as lean as you thought you were.
Do you have before photos of the buccal fat removal?
I think the only way to counter this is with fat transfer.
You would increase a solid point in aesthetics if you focused on your skin though.
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just trying to delay the aging process and look young enough to bang prime poose for as long as possible lol
Yoiks
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Get jacked and maintain low body fat. Increase the size of your neck, traps and shoulders. Basically start lifting.
LOLOL double yoiks
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Yoiks
LOLOL double yoiks
What are you, Scooby Doo? lol
My first post was said in jest, but having a proportional neck is a masculine trait and makes you look so much better. It basically frames your face, the same way a good haircut does.
(http://i.imgur.com/yXokpaj.jpg)
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/5koew4.jpg)
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2yziikw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SlkO9L6l.jpg)
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wow I'm now convinced about the importance of a wide neck!
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That's like an optical illusion on second to last guy. It looks so much like his jaw is bigger on the left shot, but I think the change in neck size is creating that affect.