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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: streo on July 30, 2012, 06:58:19 PM
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Just joined a crossfit gym in order to get in shape for surgery. I have an unusually high metabolism which means I'm a very skinny guy, but I'm really liking the change in scenery. It was that documentary on BDD that encouraged me to go...while I am FAR from having BDD, I have felt pretty self-conscious about being extremely skinny and having an underdeveloped (or "deformed" as some surgeons have pointed out) jaw. But the kicker is this: nobody gives a flying-F about how you look, so two weeks in the gym and I'm pretty much over myself. That said, I did manage to make a few new gym friends ;)
Any thoughts on what physical condition one should ideally be in pre-surgery?
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Just joined a crossfit gym in order to get in shape for surgery. I have an unusually high metabolism which means I'm a very skinny guy, but I'm really liking the change in scenery. It was that documentary on BDD that encouraged me to go...while I am FAR from having BDD, I have felt pretty self-conscious about being extremely skinny and having an underdeveloped (or "deformed" as some surgeons have pointed out) jaw. But the kicker is this: nobody gives a flying-F about how you look, so two weeks in the gym and I'm pretty much over myself. That said, I did manage to make a few new gym friends ;)
Any thoughts on what physical condition one should ideally be in pre-surgery?
I think it's awesome that you've done this, Streo. I like your attitude. To answer your question: as fit as possible. This is major surgery and a well conditioned body will better deal with the physical stress of this in terms of healing, as well as improve blood circulation. I don't know how long you'll be banded/wired shut, but it would also be beneficial if you could put on as much weight as possible now, with lots of high quality fats, proteins and vegetables/fruits. Easier said than done, I know. I, too, have a high metabolism so maintaining my weight was difficult, even though I managed to put on a few pounds beforehand. From what some surgeons are writing, nutrition plays a bigger role than previously thought in recovery. You probably already know this, of course ;). Good luck!
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I, too am getting into better shape for surgery. I've started running with an old coworker and a current coworker convinced me to do a sprint length triathlon at the end of September : p I'd love to do crossfit but I can't afford it just yet (cross-fit gyms are pricey! ) but I def plan on joining one after I heal from surgery. Let me know how u like it!
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I, too am getting into better shape for surgery. I've started running with an old coworker and a current coworker convinced me to do a sprint length triathlon at the end of September : p I'd love to do crossfit but I can't afford it just yet (cross-fit gyms are pricey! ) but I def plan on joining one after I heal from surgery. Let me know how u like it!
Awesome! I love that you guys are doing this. When is your surgery again? Try to go easy on the triathlon training if it's close to surgery. These things can be over-taxing on the body.
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Good point nef! I'm def not trying to win, just complete the race tho so no pressure on me haha. My surgery date is January 16th and the triathlon is Sep 30th. Just got back from a trail run in balboa and man I gotta lot of work to do!
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I was actually in really good shape before surgery, I cycled and ran every day. Cardio exercise is very valuable for recovery, I think. Mine went more quickly than usual and I think that the in-shapeness was behind it, at least partially.
It's a good idea to be in shape no matter what though!
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you guys should check your waking temp (before getting out of bed)
it should be like a 98.0-98.2ish
and then check every 3 hours 3x after that. like without moving eating or drinking water, if it fluctuates a lot your adrenal system is wacked out, if your temps are always lowish you have hypothyroidism.
more infro @ link
http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph
womens temps differ a lot dependign on your cycle but i would guess that a mans are very stable
you don't want a high body temp, it could mean your adrenal system is stressed out or your body is fighting off an infection
sometimes ill feell sweaty or really cold and check my body temp and it's totally normal. i think its sex hormones, not necessarily anything abnormal
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Good point nef! I'm def not trying to win, just complete the race tho so no pressure on me haha. My surgery date is January 16th and the triathlon is Sep 30th. Just got back from a trail run in balboa and man I gotta lot of work to do!
Oh, good. This should give your body plenty of time to recuperate. This sprint triathlon should get you in pretty good shape. No need for cross fit! Are your training using the race route?
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Hey Nef, how long must one wait to go back to the gym? I'm going to be seeing the surgeon in a few days, but I wanted to see if I could gain any insight from your personal experience (obviously everyone is different).
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Hey Nef, how long must one wait to go back to the gym? I'm going to be seeing the surgeon in a few days, but I wanted to see if I could gain any insight from your personal experience (obviously everyone is different).
My surgeon never gave me guidance on heavy exercise but, then, he didn't give me much in the way of info on a lot of things. I did light exercise early on, such as walking, light gardening, etc. I think it best to avoid lifting or any other activity that might jolt the jaw (running, upper body weights, yoga). I don't think I really started exercising until 8-9 weeks out, and even then I eased into it. It would be interesting to hear what your doctor has to say about this. Hope your workouts are going well. Are you gaining weight?
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Hope your workouts are going well. Are you gaining weight?
Workouts are going well, I'm losing fat and gaining muscle. Been taking one of those mass gaining supplements because my metabolism is naturally through the roof. I've also been eating at least 4 meals per day with a target of 5. I'm very sad to say that in my class I'm dead last...in everything. There are women half my size lifting twice as much weight (including a pregnant woman!).
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Workouts are going well, I'm losing fat and gaining muscle. Been taking one of those mass gaining supplements because my metabolism is naturally through the roof. I've also been eating at least 4 meals per day with a target of 5. I'm very sad to say that in my class I'm dead last...in everything. There are women half my size lifting twice as much weight (including a pregnant woman!).
Ha ha! No need to gauge your progress by others in class, especially the pregnant ones. I have a family member at full-term and she tends to go overboard. She tries to lift way too much. Her motivation seems to stem from a fear of gaining weight. Probably not uncommon. I think she's overdoing it but won't tell her that now. She's a little scary at the moment :D. The idea is to build and condition. There will be a lot of downtime after surgery, so you'll likely have to rebuild some later, but it should be easier than starting from scratch.
Keep those calories up!
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I think the most frustrating part of this whole process is that I know any gains in fitness (muscle mass and endurance) made before surgery are going to be lost post-surgery until I can start working out again 6 months post-op. My surgery is in Jan, so by summertime ill finally be able to start getting in shape again but the confidence I will have gained in my face I will have lost in my post surgical, "skinny-fat" body. LOL. Anyway, not sure what the point of this post is, I just wanted to rant. I'm having a hard time being motivated in my workouts knowing that any gains will be lost during recovery. I guess you just have to look at the bigger picture?
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I think the most frustrating part of this whole process is that I know any gains in fitness (muscle mass and endurance) made before surgery are going to be lost post-surgery until I can start working out again 6 months post-op. My surgery is in Jan, so by summertime ill finally be able to start getting in shape again but the confidence I will have gained in my face I will have lost in my post surgical, "skinny-fat" body. LOL. Anyway, not sure what the point of this post is, I just wanted to rant. I'm having a hard time being motivated in my workouts knowing that any gains will be lost during recovery. I guess you just have to look at the bigger picture?
Rant away :). Those gains will help you with recovery, and you'll likely not lose all your mass during that downtime unless your calories are drastically down. Plus, hard to have motivation when it's so damn hot out, right?
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Truth! Though most in the rest of the country would probably laugh at our "heat" LOL.
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Truth! Though most in the rest of the country would probably laugh at our "heat" LOL.
So true! But, I can't stand it. Want to move to Seattle so that I can complain about the rain. lol.
How's your triathlon training coming along?
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Not too bad, been running with a friend but need to practice swimming. Luckily a coworker is going to bring me as guest to his gym next week to use the pool :)
Been trying to eat better too, fewer sweets. Tough though as I have a major sweet tooth.
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Not too bad, been running with a friend but need to practice swimming. Luckily a coworker is going to bring me as guest to his gym next week to use the pool :)
Been trying to eat better too, fewer sweets. Tough though as I have a major sweet tooth.
Do they have the race course up? It would be great to swim the route a few times just to gauge where you are. Good that you've cut the sweets. So hard! gelatos are my weakness. I so love :D. Are you making up the calories with healthier foods?
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I think the most frustrating part of this whole process is that I know any gains in fitness (muscle mass and endurance) made before surgery are going to be lost post-surgery until I can start working out again 6 months post-op. My surgery is in Jan, so by summertime ill finally be able to start getting in shape again but the confidence I will have gained in my face I will have lost in my post surgical, "skinny-fat" body. LOL. Anyway, not sure what the point of this post is, I just wanted to rant. I'm having a hard time being motivated in my workouts knowing that any gains will be lost during recovery. I guess you just have to look at the bigger picture?
Not true, your body has muscle memory. So whatever gains you make and sustain will return to you in a much, much shorter period of time once you start working out. Also, the healthier you are the faster your recovery will go and the faster you'll be able to start working out again. It's a no lose situation. Where on earth are you getting the 6 months post-op before your start working out timeline?
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Do they have the race course up? It would be great to swim the route a few times just to gauge where you are. Good that you've cut the sweets. So hard! gelatos are my weakness. I so love :D. Are you making up the calories with healthier foods?
Good idea! Ill have to check out the race course its a bay swim. Yeah, I need to eat more veggies haha. :)
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Not true, your body has muscle memory. So whatever gains you make and sustain will return to you in a much, much shorter period of time once you start working out. Also, the healthier you are the faster your recovery will go and the faster you'll be able to start working out again. It's a no lose situation. Where on earth are you getting the 6 months post-op before your start working out timeline?
True, and good to hear. Hopefully it wont take too long to get back into shape. Arnetts office told me I have to wait 6 months, esp for weight training since it causes you to clench your jaws and can slow healing. I've noticed A&G tend to be a lot more strict with these things than other docs tho.
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I think the most frustrating part of this whole process is that I know any gains in fitness (muscle mass and endurance) made before surgery are going to be lost post-surgery until I can start working out again 6 months post-op. My surgery is in Jan, so by summertime ill finally be able to start getting in shape again but the confidence I will have gained in my face I will have lost in my post surgical, "skinny-fat" body. LOL. Anyway, not sure what the point of this post is, I just wanted to rant. I'm having a hard time being motivated in my workouts knowing that any gains will be lost during recovery. I guess you just have to look at the bigger picture?
I am having the exact same problem. I used to workout everyday, sometimes twice a day. I'm just choosing to eat healthy and workout to maintain. It is really hard to stay motivated because I'm sure I'll lose 20 to 30 lbs during recovery.
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I am having the exact same problem. I used to workout everyday, sometimes twice a day. I'm just choosing to eat healthy and workout to maintain. It is really hard to stay motivated because I'm sure I'll lose 20 to 30 lbs during recovery.
Any surgery date updates? Will you get in before the end of the year?
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I think the most frustrating part of this whole process is that I know any gains in fitness (muscle mass and endurance) made before surgery are going to be lost post-surgery until I can start working out again 6 months post-op. My surgery is in Jan, so by summertime ill finally be able to start getting in shape again but the confidence I will have gained in my face I will have lost in my post surgical, "skinny-fat" body. LOL. Anyway, not sure what the point of this post is, I just wanted to rant. I'm having a hard time being motivated in my workouts knowing that any gains will be lost during recovery. I guess you just have to look at the bigger picture?
i was given the go to do push ups/sit ups and light running as long as i don't clench my jaw. you can probably maintain some muscle tone, im at two months right now. people tend to revert back to their original form after the surgery at some point. so if you are fit now, you'll be back eventually. i think i lost more weight than normal because i'm just not as hungry. stomach shrinking from liquid diet...
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Any surgery date updates? Will you get in before the end of the year?
No, not yet. Models aren't requested until my 6 month mark mid-September. My orthodontist basically said that I'm ready now because I've had braces twice before. Unless there are any curve balls from the surgeon, it should happen in November or December.
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No, not yet. Models aren't requested until my 6 month mark mid-September. My orthodontist basically said that I'm ready now because I've had braces twice before. Unless there are any curve balls from the surgeon, it should happen in November or December.
Good to hear its moving along for you :)
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i was given the go to do push ups/sit ups and light running as long as i don't clench my jaw. you can probably maintain some muscle tone, im at two months right now. people tend to revert back to their original form after the surgery at some point. so if you are fit now, you'll be back eventually. i think i lost more weight than normal because i'm just not as hungry. stomach shrinking from liquid diet...
So you were given the go-ahead for pushups at 1 month postop?
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So you were given the go-ahead for pushups at 1 month postop?
8 weeks. and sit ups/trainer/elliptical. i personally would avoid pavement jogging because the surface isn't completely even and i can feel the slight bumps in my face. it's hard to explain but you might experience it later. like your bones moving up and down.
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8 weeks. and sit ups/trainer/elliptical. i personally would avoid pavement jogging because the surface isn't completely even and i can feel the slight bumps in my face. it's hard to explain but you might experience it later. like your bones moving up and down.
Yikes, sounds creepy. But good to hear about the exercises.
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My biggest struggle is breathing. I'm always dead last and my insides start burning. I get that pinch on the side of my gut as well after a good run. I know I'm going to lose pretty much everything, but I will gain a better airway, and that is going to make such a major difference. Aside from that, I've been on the muscle gain/lose yo-yo cycle forever and I keep blaming it on my airway. I really hope I can break this cycle once and for all.
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Yeah, I need to eat more veggies haha. :)
I was thinking more along the lines of complex carbs, quality proteins and good fats. lol. Good luck with training.
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My biggest struggle is breathing. I'm always dead last and my insides start burning. I get that pinch on the side of my gut as well after a good run. I know I'm going to lose pretty much everything, but I will gain a better airway, and that is going to make such a major difference. Aside from that, I've been on the muscle gain/lose yo-yo cycle forever and I keep blaming it on my airway. I really hope I can break this cycle once and for all.
Yes, your case is more complicated. Here's hoping that post-surgery you'll breath much better.