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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Optimistic on April 03, 2014, 09:56:07 PM

Title: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Optimistic on April 03, 2014, 09:56:07 PM
Let me lay out what he has said:
- I'm structurally a Class I, open bite was pretty much entirely the result of over-erupted third molars which have since been intruded.
- Bite now edge to edge, and dealing with that will be the next biggest problem for him, let alone decompensation
- Further auto-rotation could occur as treatment continues, and that I've already had some (seems true as gonial angles have improved).
- Jaw surgery now IMPOSSIBLE without either extractions and/or upper jaw surgery to allow for further rotation of mandible. Both of which he says are unethical and knows of no surgeon who would perform that.
- My cant is approximately 2mm

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So there you have it. I don't know what to do from here. Is it all over?

I guess if what he says is true I'll simply need to get a Chin Wing and try and deal with the massive indent between the lower lip and chin some other way.

I don't know if a SG or Chin wing can even give me what I want it do though... I'll PM some people pics and get their advice I suppose.

Any advice on this would be great. I really have no clue what to do now.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Gregor Samsa on April 03, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
Seek the opinion of one or two really good jaw surgeons before you give up. I've lost count of how many times I've been told wrong things by doctors.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Optimistic on April 03, 2014, 11:10:56 PM
Seek the opinion of one or two really good jaw surgeons before you give up. I've lost count of how many times I've been told wrong things by doctors.

I think this is something I need to consult orthodontists on, to be honest. As it pertains entirely to my teeth, and whether or not orthodontic decompensation is possible.

I was thinking of seeking out other opinions from orthodontists just because I feel my current ortho and his surgeon are very 'conservative' and pretty much think I'm insane. The surgeon said I was 'too good looking' for surgery, that nothing was wrong with my face, and at best a small sliding genio would be in order. The ortho constantly tells me similar things, that there is no need to have surgery, and shouldn't worry about it.

I think they'd have a heart attack if they knew about some of the work euro maxfac surgeons are performing purely for aesthetic reasons.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: notrain on April 04, 2014, 01:34:56 AM
Let me lay out what he has said:
- I'm structurally a Class I, open bite was pretty much entirely the result of over-erupted third molars which have since been intruded.

Is this referring to your skeletal base? if so, then you could still look at jaw angle implants or a chin wing.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Optimistic on April 04, 2014, 02:29:30 AM
Is this referring to your skeletal base? if so, then you could still look at jaw angle implants or a chin wing.

I believe that is referring to my skeletal base. I'm looking into chin wing. Just unsure how that will affect the fold between the lower lip and chin without a BSSO.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: notrain on April 04, 2014, 05:30:16 AM
if the fold would be unaesthetic (i.e. too deep) they use a bone graft from the hip to fill it.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Optimistic on April 04, 2014, 05:51:13 AM
if the fold would be unaesthetic (i.e. too deep) they use a bone graft from the hip to fill it.

This may sound stupid, but where would they graft? When I feel behind the fold it goes basically right down to the chin, meaning there's nothing to graft onto as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: notrain on April 04, 2014, 07:30:53 AM
There are no stupid questions:

https://www.google.de/search?q=Chin+Visor+Osteotomy&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9cE-U-WGNoO8OaG5gDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.de/search?q=Chin+Visor+Osteotomy&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9cE-U-WGNoO8OaG5gDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ)
Title: Re: Entire jaw surgery plans = DECIMATED. What now? Ortho claims I'm Class I.
Post by: Optimistic on April 04, 2014, 08:18:46 AM
There are no stupid questions:

https://www.google.de/search?q=Chin+Visor+Osteotomy&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9cE-U-WGNoO8OaG5gDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.de/search?q=Chin+Visor+Osteotomy&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9cE-U-WGNoO8OaG5gDA&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ)

Thanks a lot! I'll take a look into that more. Looks like it does what I'm wanting.