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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: alestor91 on September 05, 2014, 05:39:03 PM
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Hey guys new to the forums! I'm looking to get jaw implants (also cheek implants and a nose job). I morphed the changes in the pics...are the changes feasible in the jaw area? Thanks!
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You have a great face as is. I wouldn't mess with it.
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You have a great face as is. I wouldn't mess with it.
Why would you say that? My jaw isn't very strong, my cheeks aren't either, and my nose is a bit large.
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Why would you say that? My jaw isn't very strong, my cheeks aren't either, and my nose is a bit large.
You're obviously seeing something that the rest of us aren't.
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Why would you say that? My jaw isn't very strong, my cheeks aren't either, and my nose is a bit large.
Nose job (but only if it's a very good one), weight loss, done.
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We are not the best people to ask. This is primarily a jaw surgery forum not a PS forum...some of us do have PS procedures but it's along with jaw surgey
Implants might give you jaw angles like your morph but I've never seen cheekbones look like that (ie sharp and high) through implants, most cheekbone implants look a little feminine
Anyway I agree with PloskoPlus
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I have to say I really like your lower jaw shape. im very envious. :)
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My goal is to become legitly good looking, so the BDD comment was totally incorrect. Also, do I look considerably better in the morph? I'm thinking about Dr. Yaremchuk as my surgeon.
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Where's the morph? To me it looks like you accidentally uploaded the same pic twice.
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Where's the morph? To me it looks like you accidentally uploaded the same pic twice.
Lol, look at the jaw, nose, and cheeks in the second pic.
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Dr Yaremchuk will probably recommend jaw and cheek implants. I just had a consult with him last week. Hes pretty cool
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You're right that you're not "legitly good looking", but your face is good enough to live a psychosocially healthy life. The only thing I can see from the front is a slightly recessed maxilla; post a side pic. Also your before/afters in the OP look exactly the same, so yes I would say your desired result is realistic.
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Another pic of me. What do I need?
More beard, habibi ;)
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More beard, habibi ;)
Lol, I ain't arab.
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Side pic, for the guy that asked.
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Bro, craniofacially you're pretty much maxed out. At your level it's just down to small features making the difference between a "striking" face and a normal one. From that point of view, you lost out, and imo there's not a lot you can do that won't make you look fake as f**k. Chasing that last stage of perfection will only lead you down a michael jackson-esque spiral of deteriorating mental health. ON THE OTHER HAND, you should be very happy to not have a legit craniofacial defect like most of the people on this forum.
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Bro, craniofacially you're pretty much maxed out. At your level it's just down to small features making the difference between a "striking" face and a normal one. From that point of view, you lost out, and imo there's not a lot you can do that won't make you look fake as f**k. Chasing that last stage of perfection will only lead you down a michael jackson-esque spiral of deteriorating mental health. ON THE OTHER HAND, you should be very happy to not have a legit craniofacial defect like most of the people on this forum.
Do you think the nose at the very least should be changed? Thanks. Good to know I'm not ugly or something.
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Dude I wouldnt touch anything, not worth it. I always get jelly of people with good undereye support lol. Like you have
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Dude I wouldnt touch anything, not worth it. I always get jelly of people with good undereye support lol. Like you have
What's undereye support? lol
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If for whatever reason you choose to have something done to your nose (no, I'm not saying you should do anything), please be super careful.
Men and nose work seems to be especially tricky. The net result is often very feminine looking.
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What's undereye support? lol
Just the tear trough area.( Hollow undereyes) Its the only part of my face I dont like now
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My goal is to become legitly good looking, so the BDD comment was totally incorrect. Also, do I look considerably better in the morph? I'm thinking about Dr. Yaremchuk as my surgeon.
Having an idea that someone can be 'legitimately' good looking seems to fall into a BDD personality type to me. Do you mean that no one will find you unattractive?
Your morph and your original image show the least significant improvement/changes I've ever seen anywhere. I don't think there is a person alive that could spot the difference. The risk of complications with surgery far outweigh your goals.
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Dr. Yaremchuk emailed me back on my inquiry with this:
"Right now you don't have much skeletal definition. Your upper midface is retruded. I would build up your infraorbital rim, malar area, chin, and posterior mandible. I would also remove fat from under your chin and lower cheek."
WTF
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Dr. Yaremchuk emailed me back on my inquiry with this:
"Right now you don't have much skeletal definition. Your upper midface is retruded. I would build up your infraorbital rim, malar area, chin, and posterior mandible. I would also remove fat from under your chin and lower cheek."
WTF
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Dr. Yaremchuk emailed me back on my inquiry with this:
"Right now you don't have much skeletal definition. Your upper midface is retruded. I would build up your infraorbital rim, malar area, chin, and posterior mandible. I would also remove fat from under your chin and lower cheek."
WTF
Hahaha, that tell me everything I need to know about Dr Y.
Money grabbing quack!
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My goal is to become legitly good looking, so the BDD comment was totally incorrect. Also, do I look considerably better in the morph? I'm thinking about Dr. Yaremchuk as my surgeon.
Time to change goals, buddy boy.
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There's nothing wrong with your face and that reply from dr Y is shocking. I guarantee that hiring a professional trainer, getting a good haircut and buying some nice clothes will make you more attractive than plastic surgery can ever hope to achieve for you.
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Lol, I ain't arab.
No duh.
Don't worry, I've lived in the Middle East for several years and am part eastern myself so all "darlings" and "dears" have now been replaced with local vernacular
Anyway, you don't need jaw surgery so get off the board and go to the gym ;)
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Is it possible to get that kind of result? Besides the chin (looks awful) lol.
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Is it possible to get that kind of result? Besides the chin (looks awful) lol.
Something similar could be achieved with the following:
Rhinoplasty, Malar Osteotomy, Bimax with Chin Wing, chin visor, buccal fat removal, hair transplant or make-up for eyebrows, hair transplant, sub 10% bodyfat, infraorbital rim augmentation, green contacts & skin lightening.
I like the chin personally. Small chins are a neotenous feature. That's to say, they aren't masculine. Plus your current chin throws out your lower third.
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Maybe with the following:
Rhinoplasty, Malar Osteotomy, Bimax with Chin Wing, chin visor, buccal fat removal, hair transplant or make-up for eyebrows, hair transplant, sub 10% bodyfat, infraorbital rim augmentation, green contacts.
I like the chin personally. Small chins are a neotenous feature. That's to say, they aren't masculine. Plus your current chin throws out your lower third.
Hmm...Can you explain what a malar osteotomy and a bimax is? I don't have a small chin, it's just that angle. What do you mean by "...your current chin throws out your lower third."? At least my facial proportions are good...
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Hmm...Can you explain what a malar osteotomy and a bimax is? I don't have a small chin, it's just that angle. What do you mean by "...your current chin throws out your lower third."? At least my facial proportions are good...
I suggest using the search function on the forum.
Malar osteotomy = cheek bone augmentation
Bi max = Upper and lower jaw surgery. Le Fort I and BSSO.
To be legit attractive you jaws and chin would need to protrude more. Your lower third would need more length.
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I suggest using the search function on the forum.
Malar osteotomy = cheek bone augmentation
Bi max = Upper and lower jaw surgery. Le Fort I and BSSO.
To be legit attractive you jaws and chin would need to protrude more. Your lower third would need more length.
Jaw implants wouldn't do the trick? I have to get a very risky surgery instead...I assumed that malar osteotomy meant the breaking apart and reorganization of the cheek bones, not simply cheek augmentation.
All in all, do you think my face has a good amount of potential for improvement? I have tons of money (parents are rich) so I can afford any doctor.
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Jaw implants wouldn't do the trick? I have to get a very risky surgery instead...I assumed that malar osteotomy meant the breaking apart and reorganization of the cheek bones, not simply cheek augmentation.
All in all, do you think my face has a good amount of potential for improvement? I have tons of money (parents are rich) so I can afford any doctor.
Both your jaws would need to come forward, an implant can't do that. Plus in cases of minor augmentation like yours a chin wing is a better choice and more natural looking.
Malar osteotomy is an osteotomy yes, but it is still augmentation in your case.
It's hard to speak about "potential". Your face is average. Your results will completely depend on how wisely you choose your operation and the surgeon's skill. Even then, the best surgeon in the world doesn't have a 100% satisfaction rate.
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Both your jaws would need to come forward, an implant can't do that. Plus in cases of minor augmentation like yours a chin wing is a better choice and more natural looking.
Malar osteotomy is an osteotomy yes, but it is still augmentation in your case.
It's hard to speak about "potential". Your face is average. Your results will completely depend on how wisely you choose your operation and the surgeon's skill. Even then, the best surgeon in the world doesn't have a 100% satisfaction rate.
Look at how I used to look when I weighed 140 lbs at 6 feet like 3 years ago. I think i looked better with a gaunt face.
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agreed.
While i see what disillusioned is saying, I would say that what you should do is drastically drop body fat. The only surgery you need is a rhinoplasty.
You will look attractive after doing these 2 things. f**k yaremchuk
Is my nose really that bad? :'(
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No, But it could be much better.
I think once you brought your body fat to 10% and had a rhino you can decide
I have a bit of a belly right now so my body fat % has to be around 20% right now @190 lbs.
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Alestor, sorry this sounds random but when you smile how much of your gums show?
My gums don't show at all. Only about 90% of my top teeth are shown.
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after having dropped bf and gotten a rhino, you might consider zygomatic osteotomy. Ill give you more info of that once ill be done with that...in one month!
What about my face necessitates this?
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Is my nose really that bad? :'(
It's not crooked or badly shaped, it's just too big for your face. Rhino + fat loss is all you need, IMO. The "legit good looking guys" are all very lean. BTW, how is your bite and smile?
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Which sluthater are you? just lol
I don't go on that website. I'm just doing morphs so he can better see where there might be room for aesthetic improvement.
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I don't go on that website. I'm just doing morphs so he can better see where there might be room for aesthetic improvement.
Based on the morphs and the fact that I can afford any surgeon, do you think it is possible for me to become "legitly good looking" as i said earlier?
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Based on the morphs and the fact that I can afford any surgeon, do you think it is possible for me to become "legitly good looking" as i said earlier?
No, I don't. And even if I did you would only be good looking for other indians/arabs/ethnics.
An average face is average because of a plethora of issues. Average facial ratios, average facial harmony, average colouring, average features etc.
This is in start contrast to someone who has a single deficit such as weak chin or big nose, whereby fixing that sole issue can make them good looking.
Edit: And you still haven't posted a photo of yourself front on. You keep choosing flattering angles. It's very hard to give proper advice based on that.
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This thread is all kinds of f**ked up ::)
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Here ya go for the frontal shots. Should I just get something done, which is less risky and with fillers, like this? http://www.drdayan.com/subliminal-difference/subliminal-difference-male-case-3/
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In case you haven't noticed this is predominately a jaw surgery forum, most of the people here have skeletal deformities of varying severity.
Go find another board to indulge your vanity and stop wasting everyone's time.
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Dude stop asking if you can become legit good looking omg it's like you want to keep hearing random people tell you you are not good looking?
And those morphs make you look like a different race, FFS.
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Here ya go for the frontal shots. Should I just get something done, which is less risky and with fillers, like this? http://www.drdayan.com/subliminal-difference/subliminal-difference-male-case-3/
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What do you consider legit good looking? Most people in the world are average. Model status? Highly doubt you can get to that point although Dr Ramirez could potentially take you there. He's very expensive, very aggressive when it comes to implants and I hate to say this but he has law suits because some of his patients passed away. I know he lost his license but I've seen some of his afters and sometimes his work can be amazing. In the meantime radiesse injections can help you get defined cheekbones. It's the closest thing to implants but it's temporary.
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LMAO
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In case you haven't noticed this is predominately a jaw surgery forum, most of the people here have skeletal deformities of varying severity.
Go find another board to indulge your vanity and stop wasting everyone's time.
Agreed. You're decent looking, I'd say better than average. The morphs make you look like a thug
Also you're rich so you don't need good looks to get hot women
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Dude, you are seriously good looking and very handsome. Please don't touch your face. You have excellent, and very masculine structure. You have a this whole sexy mysterious thing going on I wish I could pull off. Don't get any surgery.