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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: maverik46 on September 14, 2014, 07:28:44 AM
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Hi guys , this is my first post, but it's long time that i'm following this forum. I have to take a big decision , maybe the biggest of my life . I've a long face , but i've not functional problems, and my bite it's perfect . The first time i saw the Doctor MM, i went only for a chin height reduction and advancement + jaw angle augmentation with HA. But after the simulation , Dr. M proposed me that a jaw impaction + upper Lip Lift (I've a long upper lip) should reduce the vertical lenght of my face .
I'm worried to loosing my perfect bite and nerve damage, but the thing that worries me the most is the upper lip lift because the scar , and the fact that i haven't found online many examples of upper lip lift on a man.
What do you think about this procedure ? I'm afraid to stay with lips that seem fake and with a visible scar , especially after I read a lot of negative reviews about Dr. MM
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You do realize that Mommaerts is probably THE most heavily criticized jaw surgeon on the internet right? He has consistently showed that he is incapable of making good surgery plans so I don't understand why you would risk ruining your face by going with him. Do yourself a favour and try to get a consultation with at least one other surgeon before you decide on anything.
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He's doing liplifts now? ;D
Is there no beginning to this man's talents ::)
Lip lifts are a really tricky procedure to get right for even a skilled surgeon - he probably uses a staple gun.
Do yourself a favour, cancel the surgery and save yourself the heartache - the man is a travesty to the medical profession and a despicable human being.
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I'm really thinking about cancel the surgery . The main reason why in june i went to a consultation with him, is the fact that he is the only one that use HA Paste to improve jaw angle , instead of silicon or medpor implants , and i like the fact that HA Past becames like a "bone" Until June I didn't find negative reviews online, maybe because a poor seaching , and he was considered one of the best in Europe and and I found a lot of scientific articles written by him......
For example this is an article signed by him that talks about the various techniques liplift:
http://www.drsanmiguel.com/wp-content/uploads/Art%C3%ADculo-Dr.-San-Miguel.pdf
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I'm really thinking about cancel the surgery . The main reason why in june i went to a consultation with him, is the fact that he is the only one that use HA Paste to improve jaw angle , instead of silicon or medpor implants , and i like the fact that HA Past becames like a "bone" Until June I didn't find negative reviews online, maybe because a poor seaching , and he was considered one of the best in Europe ......
If you have any doubts at all cancel.
I too fell for the online hype surrounding him and stupidly let him perform bimax surgery and genio on me last October. Literally everything he did was incorrect, every movement too large, he also narrowed my lower jaw without my consent causing me to have literally no bite post surgery. I've been left with a 5mm anterior and lateral open bite due to his incompetence yet he actually had the nerve to blame the outcome on me! Other surgeons have been horrified by what he did to me.
Many other people have found the courage to speak out about him, please don't let yourself become his next victim.
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The main reason why in june i went to a consultation with him, is the fact that he is the only one that use HA Paste to improve jaw angle , instead of silicon or medpor implants , and i like the fact that HA Past becames like a "bone"
I also chose him because he is one of very few surgeons who use HA paste. I absolutely hate the result and now I don't know now if it can even be removed or not. We had another guy in here a while back who had some form of jaw augmentation with HA paste done by Mommaerts and he hated the result. I haven't heard anything from him since so it's possible he changed mind and started to like the result.
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Thanks for putting me warning. Anyhow, from what i've seen on this forum , the majority of criticism to Dr MM come from you both (Gregor Samsa and Modigliani), and for someone who does not know the facts, it may seems that it is a personal issue against the doctor, and that you want it to defame all costs ......... I don't think so , but for someone new in the forum might seem. Are there others who have complained about the doctor?
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There's more info in this thread: http://jawsurgeryforums.com/index.php/topic,748.0.html
falcao on this forum also had a surgery completely botched by Mommaerts. He had a consultation with Arnett afterward who called it a mess and said he had never seen anything like it. Several people from this forum have consulted with Mommaerts and almost all of them received laughably bad surgery plans. That's the main problem with Mommaerts from what I've seen and experienced myself.
Even the worst surgeons produce good results once in a while so it's certainly possible that you'll end up alright, but why take that risk?
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There are others, on private forums who are also seeking revisions.
Good luck with everything but don't say you weren't warned.
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How to go into the private forum ? I really like to see some before/after pics ......
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You haven't been around long enough to see pics, sorry.
How do we know you don't work for Mommaerts or something?
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Regardless of our experiences with him, choosing a bone doctor to performed skilled, soft tissue work is just dumb in any case.
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How to go into the private forum ? I really like to see some before/after pics ......
I think Modigliani was primarily referring to the Miss J forum.
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I had a consultation also with Dr. Sandro Pelo, he is very very skilled, but he said me that he can't shorten my upper lip , he only could do a V-Y plasty , on my upper lip, but i don't know if it's right for my case
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So it's impossible to do a registration on Miss J forum ?
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So it's impossible to do a registration on Miss J forum ?
It costs money. I don't want you to get the impression that I endorse that place because I don't, but there are people who have posted surgery results on that forum that aren't posted anywhere else.
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I had a consultation also with Dr. Sandro Pelo, he is very very skilled, but he said me that he can't shorten my upper lip , he only could do a V-Y plasty , on my upper lip, but i don't know if it's right for my case
The sensible thing to do would be to let Pelo do the bone work then when that's healed, pursue a lip lift by a specialist - there are several surgeons in the US that I can recommend.
I know it's a time consuming costly approach but you will waste far more time and money having to revise that man's work if he botches it. As Gregor said, why take the risk?
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The sensible thing to do would be to let Pelo do the bone work then when that's healed, pursue a lip lift by a specialist - there are several surgeons in the US that I can recommend.
I know it's a time consuming costly approach but you will waste far more time and money having to revise that man's work if he botches it. As Gregor said, why take the risk?
Thanks Modigliani, could you tell me the name of some surgeon specialized in lip lift ? Are there any in Europe ? My main issue is the scar, because i have a hard beard , and a scar where beard doesn't grow is far more visible
It costs money. I don't want you to get the impression that I endorse that place because I don't, but there are people who have posted surgery results on that forum that aren't posted anywhere else.
I might even pay, but the problem is where ? There aren't link or any sort of FAQ to explain ...... i really need to see some before and after pics , especially of lip lift on men
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I don't think there are any in Europe to be honest.
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Rodriguez
http://www.cosmeticsurg.net/procedures/lip-lift/before-after-photos/liplift-194/
Niamtu
http://www.lovethatface.com/cosmetic-facial-surgery-richmond-va/lip-enhancement/lip-lift/
Both very experienced with lip lifts. Haworth is too but he tends towards a very overdone Hollywood look, wouldn't recommend him for a man.
Guyuron does subtle ones, he did a nice revision on a male patient who is now very happy.
These are the names I would investigate first, all in the US unfortunately.
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Mommaerts did so badly in my case that i have spent the last year spending a fortune trying to correct at least to some extent the damage he brought about. But really, money is just part of the story of how he ruined me. The depression, the heartache, the lost time, something no one could put a price on. choose to believe whatever you wish. The administrator of this site can confirm the three of us are real people with real stories who come from very different places and provided medical evidence for our botched surgeries. Consider yourself extremely lucky that we reached out to you. You have been warned. Good luck
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And when I met him, I thought he was a twat! So that's 4 of us.
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is Mommaerts based in America or Europe?
ps. just looked at the thread title again and realised he's in Belgium, oops!