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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Lazlo on May 11, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
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So as we are continuing to investigate the elusive qualities of facial beauty I must submit a very crucial criteria.
Width of ones eyes proportionate to face. If you have relatively close-set eyes (as I do) it is a f**king killer for beauty. I mean you majorly lose. Because no matter what else is done, it will severely detract from your looks. It's the death knell essentially.
Any of you have this problem? Women often attempt to disguise it by applying eyeshadow to their eyelids with darker parts towards the end away from the eye. blah blah.
But is there a surgical solution?
This is the next frontier!!! ANYONE GOT INFO!!!
Wide-set eyes are BEAUTIFUL --GIVE A YOUTHFUL AND ATTRACTIVE ALERT APPEARANCE.
CLOSE_SET EYES MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE A MUG-WUMP GISM.
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But is there a surgical solution?
Yes, it is called Orbital Box Osteotomy.
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Yes, it is called Orbital Box Osteotomy.
you know who does it? probs crazy dangerous right?
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Lazlo getting and orbital box osteotomy for wide set eyes is super crazy. It looks crazier then the lefort III. and close set eyes isnt that bad. If your under eye area is good then close set or wide set eyes dont matter as much, IMO.
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Lazlo getting and orbital box osteotomy for wide set eyes is super crazy. It looks crazier then the lefort III. and close set eyes isnt that bad. If your under eye area is good then close set or wide set eyes dont matter as much, IMO.
yeah true, i'm gonna talk to sinn about whether he can do a canthopexy or whatever it's called plus a little of a midfacelift plus have the orbital rims push up my scleral show
chris evans has close set eyes, but he looks awesome cause his eyes are very happy shaped and squinty. mine are like round orbs. f**king hell!!!!
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(http://41.media.tumblr.com/17fba98bde9d0791ce3170b50bd48917/tumblr_nlnv59jHSD1sf1ly0o1_500.png)
look at this pic of chris evans. His actual eyes are deep set. Like if you look at the distance of the top of his eye brow to the top of his eye, theres some space there. IF his eyes would protrude closer to his eye brow ridge, then they'd appear like they're bulging and it'll also maybe look like he has less under eye support. Basically my point is that deep set eyes help in making the mid face look like it has more volume. If the mid face is actually recessed then deep set eyes would make it look less bad.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6887430240_c444d5dcf0_b.jpg)
this chick had orbital decompression and look how much better she looks. Its something to look into if you have bulging eyes. But i wonder if surgeons can say 100% if bulging eyes are due to a recessed upper maxilla or muscular.
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yeah what the HAY!!???
I need that. I have deep set eyes, but they bulge. PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!
I need orbital decompression!!!! f**k I'm gonna have to get some sort of extra job to pay for that.
EARL!!! Please tell us, you're the expert. Is that a realistic result of orbital decompression?????
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look at this pic of chris evans. His actual eyes are deep set. Like if you look at the distance of the top of his eye brow to the top of his eye, theres some space there. IF his eyes would protrude closer to his eye brow ridge, then they'd appear like they're bulging and it'll also maybe look like he has less under eye support. Basically my point is that deep set eyes help in making the mid face look like it has more volume. If the mid face is actually recessed then deep set eyes would make it look less bad.
Is that pic shopped or morphed? He has a class 2 profile in this pic, looks like it is taken from the first captain america movie where they CGI'd him into a jawsurgeryforums member before he got transformed into cpt. america by this crazy doctor.
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you know who does it? probs crazy dangerous right?
It isn't something one can just stroll in and get 'done' - it takes a team of craniofacial, maxfac, neurology, and neuroanesthesiology surgeons to perform. Complication rate is surprisingly low; something <5%, as I recall. Of course, those complications aren't pretty. You definitely don't want enopthalmos, although blindness is - again, surprisingly enough - very rare. Aesthetic results are natural-looking, from what I've seen, although it can be difficult to properly gauge given the starting points of the people having the operation. There are a few different surgical techniques, ranging from the mildly nauseating to the downright horrifying (facial bipartition).
Unfortunately, I doubt any western surgeon would even consider it for anything less severe than an IPD >2 SD below average. Let me know if you do ever ask any surgeons about it, though.
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Lazlo,
what is your IPD?
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Evans does look class II, with a strong chin that does a good job to mask it to the average person. I unfortunately have zero chin prominence to speak off, doing a terrible job to mask mine. Did he have surgery?
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(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6887430240_c444d5dcf0_b.jpg)
this chick had orbital decompression and look how much better she looks. Its something to look into if you have bulging eyes. But i wonder if surgeons can say 100% if bulging eyes are due to a recessed upper maxilla or muscular.
Seriously? her eyes look deeper set on the left picture.
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i wonder if it's like she got filler plus the decompression. there's something very strange about the before and after. terry where did you get this all from?
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I'm confused, her eyes appear perfectly normal in both pics.
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I'm surprised someone did decompression on her but the eyes look much better after
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i dunno what she had. I just googled orbital decompression before and after. it was like one of the first pics.
also LOL. not sure if shes had orbital decompression, just found this link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ealford/6887430240/
Looks like she only had rhino, but her eyes look better. Either way OD makes the face look better if you have bulging eyes.
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Not everyone with bulging eyes requires an orbital decompression surgery, some simply have a bone deficiency around the rim of the orbits which makes their eyes appear more prominent. Orbital decompression works for patients who's eyeballs bulge so much that you start seeing a large part of their sclera. In this case, the surgeon would need to carve the extra fat/bone inside the orbital globe to set the eyeballs back into the eyes to their normal position.
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Hello. I recently--three weeks ago, roughly--had double jaw surgery for my class 2 occlusion, but I do feel that my face still needs quite a bit of work done for me to be content with it.
My pupillary distance is 58-60 mm (it is difficult to measure it precisely with rudimentary equipment), and I do feel that this dimension is incredibly small if not in absolute terms then relative to the rest of my facial anatomy.
For a year or thereabouts now I have known that I would benefit greatly from even a slight bilateral expansion of the interorbital region; we're talking 5-6 mm at most, a very minor movement compared to those cases (for some reason, only hypertelorism seems to be of common concern judging by the images available on the internet) that I have examined. My eyes are pretty well-supported with a nice sleek and uptilted shape, but the deviation in spacing makes it look as though my nose is too long though it is perfectly normal and even uptilted.
I am not one to back down when my (disgustingly close-set predatory) eyes gaze upon something that I desire (wow, that could be misinterpreted in at least a couple of different rather distubring ways), and therefore I will consult with leading maxfacs about this issue as soon as I have recovered more fully from the bimax. I figure that if I survived a LeFort I BSSO combo without any issues--I was already chewing softer varieties of bread two weeks postop--I might as well take it one step further so that I may eventually grow to not loathe my visage.