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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Lazlo on June 11, 2015, 11:17:26 PM
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As an adjunct to jaw surgery I'm very seriously considering a rhinoplasty which I had before sworn off.
Let's compile a list of people who are renowned for great rhinos. Begin.
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I have to tell you, I think rhinoplasty is WAY WAY more unpredictable than jaw surgery and we know how unpredictable that is.
This guy seems the most advanced, but many think his noses are large and huge. But here's the problem. TO get structure in a fleshy big bulbous nose you can't really just cut away the nose or skin. Instead you need to add structure to give the illusion that the nose is more refined. It's really sucks having so much thick skin on your nose. But Im realizing my tip is just too large and droopy. Maybe the architecture of my whole face will change after jaw surgery and orbital rim advancement enough for my nose to look better. Ugh!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVSXKg5K0A
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Yeah this is why rhinos are such bad news. My nose has a wide (good for men I suppose, and I am male) strong bridge but the tip feels like it's all flesh. Yes fatty, oily skin. It really overwhelms my face. I'm just gonna hope that the chin augmentation and cheekbone work Sinn does will balance my face out to the point I don't need a rhino. That said, Dr. Sinn suggested I get a rhino with him in a third stage. I'll have time to reassess. If any of you have ideas let me know.
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Honestly rhinos are so hid and miss...crapshoot in a s**tstorm
My first doc was supposedly expert and he did a terrible job. He didn't straighten my nose after the original break, didn't fix the broken septum, removed way too much bridge and not nearly enough tip. My second surgery was a cheap quickie in Lebanon and I'm pretty happy with the result
I think the most important thing is to find a doc who can do the shape that you want (I wanted a supratip break and an upturned snub nose and I made sure I found a doc that had before/afters like this)
I used to have quite a large tip and hanging columella. Now my nose is cute. The swelling was 90% gone in a month from the 2nd surgery (which was close and no bone work, just tip). The first time it took forever
The internal stitches are a royal pain in the ass
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Interesting TINY....yeah the idea bout the shape makes a lot of sense.
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Honestly rhinos are so hid and miss...crapshoot in a s**tstorm
My first doc was supposedly expert and he did a terrible job. He didn't straighten my nose after the original break, didn't fix the broken septum, removed way too much bridge and not nearly enough tip. My second surgery was a cheap quickie in Lebanon and I'm pretty happy with the result
I think the most important thing is to find a doc who can do the shape that you want (I wanted a supratip break and an upturned snub nose and I made sure I found a doc that had before/afters like this)
I used to have quite a large tip and hanging columella. Now my nose is cute. The swelling was 90% gone in a month from the 2nd surgery (which was close and no bone work, just tip). The first time it took forever
The internal stitches are a royal pain in the ass
Do you have before/after pics?
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Dr. Rizk is very, very good at refining thicker nasal tips.
Unfortunately, he's also very, very good at charging absurd prices.
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Dr. Rizk is very, very good at refining thicker nasal tips.
Unfortunately, he's also very, very good at charging absurd prices.
How risky is it to ask a surgeon to refine the nasal tip? Especially if one emphasised a less is more approach?
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How risky is it to ask a surgeon to refine the nasal tip? Especially if one emphasised a less is more approach?
If the surgeon does a "closed" rhinoplasty approach, that is with no outer scars, then the risk is much less, but then the refinement you get may not be as good as an open approach supposedly allows for more dissection and sculpting.
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IMO, the facial frame (jaws, cheekbones) is far more important than the nose, which should be the last thing to fix. And I think you're right, fleshy noses... there is only so much that can be done, especially with males.
I can't really judge rhinoplasties... a lot of the before and afters give me a "why did they even bother" feeling. But the names I've heard bandied about are Guyuron, Frankel, Cochoran.
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IMO, the facial frame (jaws, cheekbones) is far more important than the nose, which should be the last thing to fix. And I think you're right, fleshy noses... there is only so much that can be done, especially with males.
I can't really judge rhinoplasties... a lot of the before and afters give me a "why did they even bother" feeling. But the names I've heard bandied about are Guyuron, Frankel, Cochoran.
Yes I agree. Once the facial frame is set, rhino may not even be needed. But it can give that subtle "aha" touch at the end if done well. I will probably do it. I'm going balls to the wall with this s**t. I mean head reconstruction motherf**kers!
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You need to make bumper stickers or become a motivational speaker.
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I can imagine no higher compliment. Thank you.
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I can imagine no higher compliment. Thank you.
You will look better, just don't go overboard with your expectations, because the key to happiness is low expectations.
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If the surgeon does a "closed" rhinoplasty approach, that is with no outer scars, then the risk is much less, but then the refinement you get may not be as good as an open approach supposedly allows for more dissection and sculpting.
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My first was open, my second was close. Second gave a better result even though open is supposedly more accurate.
Recovery from rhino was way worse than I expected. Even with my 2nd surgery (35 mins, under local), I swelled up so much I could hardly open my eyes. And your nose is totally blocked for days
IMO nose matters a lot more for females than males. I mean Adrien Brody? Giant nose, still hot. But a lot of women look way better after their rhinoplasties (e.g. moi ;D)
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Small nose = cute (names)
Big nose = character (brody, pacino, r.williams etc)
:D
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adrien brody is good looking because of his eyes.
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A lot of people tell me Dr. Bahman Guyron is the guy for rhinoplasty.
As for shape I like the shape he achieves. But I haven't seen his work on anyone with a nose like mine. Think a bulbous version of kal penn nose, that's mine. I don't necessarily want it smaller, i just want it more structured so it doesn't droop and the overall structure refined so it doesn't announce itself as the first thing on my face.
What do you guys think of these? I like that he keeps the nose structured and relatively large but just more refined. TO me that's a sign of a rhinoplasty surgeon that knows what he's doing. Rhinoplasty has a long history and the whole cut and make a small petite ski slope tip is a thing of the past --it eventually leads to various deformities like saddle deformities, pinched tip, land collapse. The new way as exemplified by Dean Toriumi and others is to actually structure the nose so it "looks" like it's smaller and more refined but will hold up over the long term. Do you guys agree?
http://drbahmanguyuron.com/gallery/image-gallery/rhinoplasty/
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so seriously who is the best doc for doing a kal penn type bulbous nose. there is one example i know of but it wasn't great. i like the strong bridge straight nose, i wonder if I can achieve this?
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A lot of people tell me Dr. Bahman Guyron is the guy for rhinoplasty.
As for shape I like the shape he achieves. But I haven't seen his work on anyone with a nose like mine. Think a bulbous version of kal penn nose, that's mine. I don't necessarily want it smaller, i just want it more structured so it doesn't droop and the overall structure refined so it doesn't announce itself as the first thing on my face.
What do you guys think of these? I like that he keeps the nose structured and relatively large but just more refined. TO me that's a sign of a rhinoplasty surgeon that knows what he's doing. Rhinoplasty has a long history and the whole cut and make a small petite ski slope tip is a thing of the past --it eventually leads to various deformities like saddle deformities, pinched tip, land collapse. The new way as exemplified by Dean Toriumi and others is to actually structure the nose so it "looks" like it's smaller and more refined but will hold up over the long term. Do you guys agree?
http://drbahmanguyuron.com/gallery/image-gallery/rhinoplasty/
I hate those results where the nose ends up coming really close to a greek-style nose of almost meeting up completely with the forehead. Then the nose also looks WAY too small in profile.
Sometimes surgeons just need to tell people their facial morphology doesn't lend itself to anything but a curved nose. Unless of course there is a way for them to seriously build out to nose to make it larger, and therefore straight but still proportionately angled.
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hey 27f you've seen my nose right? What do you think i should do?
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I agree with plosko, first you gotta address the overall architecture and frame of the face, only then does a rhinoplasty make sense.
Once I get a nice new broad frame to my face I'll think about rhinoplasty, cause it's just too risky.
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Get the surgery and nose job. You'll be so hawt that Chippendales will scout you in a heartbeat and then you can repay me with a nice sum of $100k that you've accumulated as a male stripper. Then I will take that $100k and get my surgery and become hawt too and strip to earn the $100k back to repay you.
Solid plan.
You have no idea. I'm attacking the gym real hard now so that I have no excuses and I'm just super hawt. I just WANNNA BE HAAAAAAAAWT!
Total deal on the plan!
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Rohrich, Cochran
One would think the best ones would be in Beverly Hills.