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General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: Rico on January 27, 2016, 10:23:44 AM
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I try to understand what happened ? and why other doctor could not help her ????? WTF ?
What kind of beautiful scann at the end ? X-Ray in real? too much radiation... MRI ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVYCQmg12EU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQy8rRmtOTQ
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sad. I wonder what the story. Some say it was a disease, some say surgeon's error ....hmmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PT9k1rvH3k
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is there some risk like that in jaw surgery?
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i know the girl who had jaw surgery and has problem with talking / singing.
she was singer. totally botched surgery
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Lol this woman is a total hypochondriac. She has a psychological problem nothing else. If I remember right Rico, you are the guy that is always complaining that something has gone wrong with your surgery. You're just like this mad woman, that's why you fell sorry for her.
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Fortunatelly may X-Rays says that my TMJ will be damaged.. everything else is OK
My dentist confirmed that my joint is very overloaded due to bad zygomatic arch alignement - the bone set too wide
I have now first TMJD symptoms
i hope your surgery will be failed, becase you are telling bulls**ts without even knowing the problem
so look at x-ray published here and look at my zygomatic arch, why is not an arch anymore... Even my surgeon is little confused why he set that
This woman has sa some face muscle disorder or post operative complication
bad luck for people like you
PS I feel sorry for all people who suffer , no matter what is the reason
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That's an unfortunate case. Her lower jaw looks like it got pushed back during the face/neck lift procedures. I found a couple more of her videos... the first one she says that X-ray was a barium swallow:
https://myspace.com/luciacovelli/video/recipe-for-misdiagnosis-botched-facelift-neck-lift/30726293
https://myspace.com/luciacovelli/video/-trust-betrayed/31273966
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I saw one patient who had temporary problem with the throat / breathing (effect of infection) . He was so terribly anxious. So now imagine you have such problem for many years.
I read the surgeon or one of the surgeons was Dr Eppley... hmmm
But if this was really post operative problem, why no other doctor could helped her ... very strange
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No surgeon wanted to help her because they thought her insane.
By the way, what is "TMJ" exactly?
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temporomandibular joints....
you cannot damage them ... or if you do that, you are gonna have extremely big problems
my right one is overloaded, because surgeon put the bone little too widely, and my muscle doesn't work enough properly what makes the joint overloaded
i hope he correct this. but it's annyoing situation for me and the surgeon... 2mm less and it would be perfect
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No surgeon wanted to help her because they thought her insane.
By the way, what is "TMJ" exactly?
Exactly.
* Everything Rico's ever written in this forum. *
LOL.
By the way, I've had my surgery. It went well. No problems. ;)
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i try to say people here ....to avoid their surgeries until they have really issue...
little flat cheeks since their born, 2mm too much prominent cheek etc
If you have such mind problems, then the only issue you have is your mind....you can change your thinking about yourself, but you can't repair nerves
it's not reason to undergo surgery....nothing is worse than damaged nerves
but go for it , let's try
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Most surgeons tell you "go to psychiatrist" when you will be in panic like state /anxious
that's the most terryfying. they can't understand ..because they do not have problems
i think all maxfac surgeons should have some problems with the face... they would learn something...
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Most surgeons tell you "go to psychiatrist" when you will be in panic like state /anxious
that's the most terryfying. they can't understand ..because they do not have problems
i think all maxfac surgeons should have some problems with the face... they would learn something...
They are your best friend until things go wrong.
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I consulted that surgeon, thought he was a nice guy. My aunt just had a face lift, seemed to go without problems but it took 7 hours. Lot of stuff moved around, who knows. It's certainly never going to be like new again afterwards. I don't doubt she had a bad outcome but the video is overly dramatic, the music and jaw movements all seem strange to me given the message she is trying to convey.
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The videos are disturbing. I feel weird watching them now that she is dead.
I was thinking of doing something more cosmetic, rather than jaw surgery, thinking it would be less drama... like liposuction and/or neck lift. Whatever happened to her I'm sure is really rare, but it's still frightening.
I've heard through the grapevine of some people committing suicide after TMJ replacement surgery. Not sure how true it is though.
But one study I read mentioned one of their participants killed herself a year into the study (of course they said it was due to 'psychological problems' not the surgery (!), but looking at the data she possibly had less than 5mm of mouth opening a year after the surgery and worse pain scores than she started out with - so I don't doubt it contributed to her suicide.
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no it's so rare.... it;s not so often
Are you saying it's rare or not so rare?
I know that surgery has risks. But some complications (such as her inability to breathe/hold her head up) occur less often than other types of complications. That's what I meant when I said rare.
for example .. you may not know that one of the joint is now a little weaker... and during surgery they will damaged it completelty, because your muscles during surgery do not protect your joints... the mouth is opened very widely
to be honest surgeon hould examine you completely to be sure for example if he can do intubation through the throat, or better something similar through the nose
he should check if it's better for you to make some special simple protector for your jaw to not cross it's normal max opening point
etc etc
they dont give a f... about very detailed diagnostics
they just want you to not die, do their job, take money and next...
Yeah, opening the jaw past it's maximal opening can be really damaging to the ligaments and discs. There's like a 4-5 month window after the discs have been displaced, to manipulate them back in. But once the ligaments have been stretched for too long, the disc will likely not recover. It's not all doom and gloom, but in some people can really cause pain and damage. I think wisdom teeth surgery is the most common culprit.
Both my joints are already both damaged and I know going into jaw surgery I risk doing more damage. I'm trying to find a doc in my country who does care about protecting the joints during surgery but its pretty hard. Even if they say all the right things, it doesn't mean they really give a damn. That's the scariest thing about all this - putting your health and life in ultimately a stranger's hands.
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Rico my friend, I think you should see a doctor.
It is okay to be sad and disappointed in some decision--but please, no dark thoughts.
We all beg that you see a doctor and talk about how you feel--nothing is worth ending your life over.
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i've been looking for 2 months now..
it's hard if you spent all money for botched surgery ..and i won't earn more... because i'm to depressed to work
I'm just getting initial diagnoses...but i have no money to make next step in many cases
i need help of surgeon working in NHS. I found one but it does not mean he will help me. For 60% i need fact correction
I'm collecting opinions of other specialist to show him
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I mean psychologist, not a doctor to fix the tmj.
Someone you can talk to. how bad is the pain?
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heh believe me it does not work for me.
It's too deep in me. I just need good health, nothing more. I never had headache in my life - oh ok perhaps 3-4 times, but it's nothing..... I used to be very healthy.. but that overlooked fracture and surgical error damaged me
i have some friends. One girl takes care of me..
the psychological pain is 10/10
when i talk with someone 10/10
i need to repair my problem as soon as possible
my body won't handle so big stres
and i got even something to calm my nerves - very strong - effect ? anxiety about my problem 10/10
nothing works, this is why i'm terrified.. i have to correct this to save my life
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Where are you located Rico?
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i know it's botched. i have proof . I put it in my thrad what is wrong. My jaw is not in centerd position
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never give up
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Come to Boston Rico or dr Wolfe at Baylor university
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Take legal action and sue him
You don't seem to have many options
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Came across this article about turbinate surgery, which is sometimes done with septoplasty
http://www.buzzfeed.com/joeloliphint/is-empty-nose-syndrome-real-and-if-not-why-are-people-killin?utm_term=.fxPAmQKoJ#.jpODAbXV1
I have to laugh at this 'mystery' below (but with great sadness).
"And then there’s the psychological mystery. Nayak says the ENS patients he has treated not only breathe better, they’re happier. “Anxiety, depression — all of these are off the charts for the initial patient with true empty nose syndrome,” Nayak says. He and his team are still trying to understand why that simple tubular structure seems to be essential to a proper sense of well-being for some people."
It's pretty obvious to me if you were constantly struggling to breathe like these poor ENS victims, you'd experience depression and anxiety!