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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Lazlo on March 29, 2016, 05:19:19 PM
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Damn most of these women were positively FUGLY before their extensive PS and photoshopping:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZs-ixh1Vs
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i wonder how many postop damaged nerves she has .....
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i wonder how many postop damaged nerves she has .....
Why it would be so? They mostly had boob jobs, nose jobs and fillers. These procedures usually dont cause nerve damage.
On topic, I think most were cute before surgery, I enjoy plastic surgery but not really this kind of look. Alena shishkova was gorgeous before IMO.
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i don't like plastic surgeries
only if you really need it
if you are a girl and have A boops , or you can do it for C
but if someone is not looking generally bad awful there is no sense
natural beauty
like me i got 2mm zygoma bone hypercorrection (little bad surgeon calculations)- I'm more symmetric than naturally and I know that me more asymmetric was a bit better, however still better than after overlooked fracture ;)
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Damn most of these women were positively FUGLY before their extensive PS and photoshopping:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGZs-ixh1Vs
How?? They all had the baseline necessities (aka bone structure) and most were highly attractive before.
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Makes me think I should forget about jaw surgery and just put my money into lips, boobs, nose, fillers. Have seriously been wondering that as I think I'm in the grey area with my jaw :-\
Alena's always been very pretty . Before PS she was with Women, one of the top modeling agencies in the world ( and not with them anymore since her new look). I like her natural look better, but who cares, the PS look has clearly worked for these girls!
There were one or two that were ugly beforehand - but as a girl I LOVE IT. Hope for us all, and all that!
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Makes me think I should forget about jaw surgery and just put my money into lips, boobs, nose, fillers. Have seriously been wondering that as I think I'm in the grey area with my jaw :-\
Alena's always been very pretty . Before PS she was with Women, one of the top modeling agencies in the world ( and not with them anymore since her new look). I like her natural look better, but who cares, the PS look has clearly worked for these girls!
There were one or two that were ugly beforehand - but as a girl I LOVE IT. Hope for us all, and all that!
No look closely, TERRIBLE skin, fat thick skin noses, the "after" pics are all PLASTIC SURGERY THAT MAKES THEIR NOSES FREAKIER THAN MICHAEL JACKSON + PROBABLY AN INCH OF SPRAYPAINTED MAKE-UP AND SHADING + PLUS THE CGI CALLIBER OF LIKE A DIGITAL EFFECTS MASTER WORKING ON MICHAEL BAY'S TRANSFORMERS to produce what??? A "WOMAN" THAT LOOKS LIKE A f**kING TRANNY.
I mean this is all great news but you'd only look like that sort of TRANNY-INSTAGRAM-WHORE in the virtual world.
You take away aforementioned CGI, and SPRAY PAINT you're gonna end up with a chick who would frighten you in dark alleys --PS scars galore, stretch-marks, really nasty proportions and a swamp-load of make-up muck!!!
Only like 2 percent of the population are like good looking and this sort of masquerade makes the actually real-life pretty people harder to find online!!!!!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
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No look closely, TERRIBLE skin, fat thick skin noses, the "after" pics are all PLASTIC SURGERY THAT MAKES THEIR NOSES FREAKIER THAN MICHAEL JACKSON + PROBABLY AN INCH OF SPRAYPAINTED MAKE-UP AND SHADING + PLUS THE CGI CALLIBER OF LIKE A DIGITAL EFFECTS MASTER WORKING ON MICHAEL BAY'S TRANSFORMERS to produce what??? A "WOMAN" THAT LOOKS LIKE A f**kING TRANNY.
I mean this is all great news but you'd only look like that sort of TRANNY-INSTAGRAM-WHORE in the virtual world.
You take away aforementioned CGI, and SPRAY PAINT you're gonna end up with a chick who would frighten you in dark alleys --PS scars galore, stretch-marks, really nasty proportions and a swamp-load of make-up muck!!!
Only like 2 percent of the population are like good looking and this sort of masquerade makes the actually real-life pretty people harder to find online!!!!!
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!!
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Point taken. But can you imagine their lifestyles now. Sure that too could be a farce, but I'm guessing they are much better off for it.
Alena was so pretty beforehand.
http://jetsetbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/alena-shishkova-before-pictures7.jpg
http://jetsetbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/alena-shishkova-before-pictures8.jpg
http://jetsetbabe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/alena-shishkova-before-pictures9.jpg
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yeah she was doable.
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Lazlo guys like you who claim that girls like her are just doable---lol and bash Plastic Surgery but do a similar surgery (I doubt just for functional reasons) are not pretty bright and well---I guess in India every guy believes he deserves a Supermodel. But Supermodel date billionaires. Lol. Why don't you post one of your pictures?
lol I'm Canadian.
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Also I don't think I "deserve" supermodels. And what a racist thing to say about Indians, even though I wouldn't know (cf ABOVE retard). I have dated female models before, but I've also dated regular girls. Most importantly I like smart girls with a good sense of humour (which automatically invalidates you from the list) in a healthy and attractive package(physical beauty if overrated).
The point is, it's all fine to improve your looks a bit by having an aesthetic or functional surgery, but these instagram hoes go way further, they basically are anime characters. It's called DISSIMULATION. Also, it's really sad how obsessed they become with their online "fake" image of themselves.
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I do agree with this. It becomes an obsessive thing for sure, they live for it in the end.
Its not healthy, looks will always get worse as we age anyway.
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They look very 'done', but certainly not ugly. I think it's possible to get away with this kind of look in your 20s and 30s, but I suspect it doesn't age very well. Especially reductive surgeries, when skin starts to lose elasticity and sag it naturally favours a good strong underlying structure to tent it up. However, I suspect most of these women will go down the facelift route when the time comes.
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The point is, it's all fine to improve your looks a bit by having an aesthetic or functional surgery, but these instagram hoes go way further, they basically are anime characters. It's called DISSIMULATION. Also, it's really sad how obsessed they become with their online "fake" image of themselves.
They want that look, only idiots believe they are natural. I don't even find them attractive post surgery, and I'm not saying I like ugly women with good personalities, I like beautiful women which is not their case at all.
Alena was much hotter before surgery and that is the reason she was dropped as a real model after the surgeries.
I like natural looking beauty, which can also be achieved by surgery(in some cases), but not the kind of surgery they did which was intended to look like a cartoon.
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today i feel really ugly.....ugh...... >:(
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That firat blonde chick is hot as f**k in the before and hot af in the after.
It's messed up though with some of them, you think you're getting with awoman with great genetics and then boom ugly kids.
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That firat blonde chick is hot as f**k in the before and hot af in the after.
It's messed up though with some of them, you think you're getting with awoman with great genetics and then boom ugly kids.
It could go the other way as well. Both my parents were very attractive in their primes. Then I came out below average and only recently started looking normal when I reached adulthood. You never know.
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It could go the other way as well. Both my parents were very attractive in their primes. Then I came out below average and only recently started looking normal when I reached adulthood. You never know.
That's true. Or sometimes you look at the parents of hot celebs and they are butt ugly, but one of their 5 children came out beautiful.
My dad could have been a male model, strong jaw, chin and cheekbones with perfect forward growth. We look similar but my jaw is crooked and i have more vertical growth. Am confident that jaw surgery will resolve this asymmetry at least.
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^ lol BS. Yes it takes a lot of work to look like that, thats true, but lets not confue that by suggesting it is not because of an obsessive mentality and insecurity about their natural looks. I dont think there is anything wrong with trying to look better up until a point, but don't try to tell other men what they should think. Successful men are all different, some don't think about what their kids will look like, some do, some wont be that superficial, some will. Enough with the generalisations, not surprising though as you are a self-professed racist.
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I'm here for an actual skeletal deformity, apart from that I'm already relatively attractive and while I don't disagree the cosmetic side of it plays a huge role, the functional issues associated with it are TMJ pain and unilateral wearing of my teeth on one side. I have ways been outspoken here in my opinion that anyone willing to go through this surgery for purely aesthetic reasons when they are already attractive needs to get their head checked.
My issue comes down to changing your appearance so much that you dont even resemble yourself or your family members anymore. I mean people are free to do what they want but these procedures are down to insecurity no matter what way you look at it. Think of it, are you saying that these people are incapable of achieving success on their own merits? Or must theu undergo risky surgery to get anywhere in life, in which case the insecurity ia obvious and their success is purely based on how they look. The more they have to offer to world the less important looks will become.
Im insecure about my jaw, but I still want to look like myself afterwards.
I doubt angelina jolie had bimax btw so am interested in you providing proof. Looks like a nose job, chin/lip augmentation and different body fat levels.
Lastly, I would f**k those girls you say that I wouldn't turn down, but I wouldn't have kids with them (the ones that look drastically different) because then they too run the risk of being insecure about their looks.
Eta: your anecdote about women marrying footballer. No chit she felt the first guy was superficial, she probably went from getting little attention to a buttload of attention, which is no doubt why she got the surgeries. If she wasnt so supericial, and her new husband loves her for her as you claim, then he would have married her regardless and the surgeries would have proved to be needless.
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I'm here for an actual skeletal deformity, apart from that I'm already relatively attractive and while I don't disagree the cosmetic side of it plays a huge role, the functional issues associated with it are TMJ pain and unilateral wearing of my teeth on one side. I have ways been outspoken here in my opinion that anyone willing to go through this surgery for purely aesthetic reasons when they are already attractive needs to get their head checked.
My issue comes down to changing your appearance so much that you dont even resemble yourself or your family members anymore. I mean people are free to do what they want but these procedures are down to insecurity no matter what way you look at it. Think of it, are you saying that these people are incapable of achieving success on their own merits? Or must theu undergo risky surgery to get anywhere in life, in which case the insecurity ia obvious and their success is purely based on how they look. The more they have to offer to world the less important looks will become.
Im insecure about my jaw, but I still want to look like myself afterwards.
I doubt angelina jolie had bimax btw so am interested in you providing proof. Looks like a nose job, chin/lip augmentation and different body fat levels.
Lastly, I would f**k those girls you say that I wouldn't turn down, but I wouldn't have kids with them (the ones that look drastically different) because then they too run the risk of being insecure about their looks.
I think the deal with insecurity is if you look good but still feel insecure.
If you are ugly and consider yourself ugly and want to change it you are not insecure, just realistic.
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I think the deal with insecurity is if you look good but still feel insecure.
If you are ugly and consider yourself ugly and want to change it you are not insecure, just realistic.
I mean ugly people are still insecure, but for more understandable reasons. I guess my whole thing about changing your appearance beyond recognition is the genetic thing and pulling the wool over people's eyes.
Im not saying there's amything wrong with cosmetic surgery or making yourself look better btw, but you need to be secure in yourself either way to be truly happy.
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Jolie,
Nose work.
Sliding Genio - - looks like that is about it. Really doubt bi-max. No evidence of upper jaw movement.
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I know of some of these girls who are already over 40 and fake their age and you wouldn't guess.
Google Cindy Jackson and realize that you men who bash women for Plastic Surgery are the actual losers:-).
I am over 30 and certainly look as if I had Plastic Surgery. I have been told I am beautiful by guys who are models. But some normal men try to make me insecure (because they are usually ugly as f*** and insecure themselves). i have dated male models all my life, very successful and intelligent men as well, but I have to say, the most attractive men take women for who they are. Because they know the struggles of these women and the stigmas around it. Men who are successful and powerful take the whole package and go after those women without even a thought. While average middle class men seem to hate these women an call them shallow. Those ladies are usually the most intelligent type because they work for their looks while most models were just born this way and don't know how to be ambitious.
And Alena was Miss Russia and is a popular model as I remember.
Oleysha M. is a famous designer in Russia even if people are jealous and bash her for her past not so beautiful past --she was also said to be a prostitute for a while.
I can assure you, none of these women would date a normal guy and they can't rescue themselves from invitations to parties and by gorgeous men.
Intelligent men can look behind the work a women HAS TO DO to look a specific way and they know it doesn't mean shallowness.
You know hyping women who didn't do anything to look a certain way while bashing the ones who worked hard for it and are obvious achievers---well that's somehow a very immature and irrational thought form which has been portrayed by the media (and she eps repeat it like parrots) and was literally created to keep women down. We just have to be born beautiful and smile but not work and try to get better or change our fate.
STUPID
I have just one observation to make, and it's not about the women who had plastic surgery Isabella. But it's about your little tirade here and how you refer to men you've dated as "male models" who are "very successful" blah blah and clearly you place a lot of emphasis both on incredibly superficial criteria and at the same time highly materialistic ones and refer to people as "middle class and the "male Indian mentality." Also you admit that you're a racist which isn't just about an aversion to a particular social mentality but about the entirety of a group of people based on their racial and ethnic characteristics.
From the way you express yourself and present yourself you are, my dear, a COMPLETE f**kING RETARD. What I would recommend is that instead of worrying about more plastic surgery you leave this forum and enrol in some sort of higher education program that has a strong emphasis on philosophy, ethics and the liberal arts and try and develop your own character. Because right now you are a very, very ugly person (on your inside) and there's no amount of surgery or photoshop that will ever hide that. SO GO f**k THE f**k OFF.
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lmao ^ Wouldhavegeneticallyf**kedkidswithLazlo/10, no homo.
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Also your face changes as you grow up. She improved her bone structure and now has a more defined face with higher cheek bones.
She also stopped using Lip Injections
no f**king way, "lip injections" lolololol
she MAYBE had a rhino --she just lost her baby fat. She was always beautiful.
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Surgery or not, she's an extremely attractive woman. Her film persona is also extremely attractive, which only enhances her attractiveness.
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Personally, I don't think it really matters if someone is cosmetically enhanced, and I certainly wouldn't black mark them as a result. It'd make me a hypocrite for one, as I've had surgeries, but I think the problem lies in an addiction to it, as it really can consume you, and hey I think we would all agree there is a lot more to life. But if a few tweaks makes you a little happier and opens a few doors, then I say go for it!
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My original point was you can't trust the online beauty of instagram whores.
If a woman looks pretty with or without plastic surgery, great. But even WITH plastic surgery these instagram whores or other women who obsessively post selfies don't look like that in REAL LIFE cause they spray paint make-up, photoshop and CGI their pics. So if you're on a dating website or something BUYER BE f**kING WARE. You're in for a rude awakening if you meet any of these chicks in the real world.
If you have some PS and look beautiful and that way in real life awesome, so much the better. But with chicks like Isabella it's more like this:
ISABELLA'S ONLINE PROFILE PIC VS WHAT SHE LOOKS LIKE IRL :
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Hey, so this forum is obviously male dominated, most of the examples of cosmetic surgery centre around females and when people (men) bash the results, I get that it can come across as misogynistic. But, I don't think that was the original point, more to highlight the danger of overdoing it. I mean, flip the thing around. And this is something which I'm actually pretty damn interested in as a guy, so female input is much appreciated, how do women feel about guys getting surgeries? Is it cool for a guy to have surgery to enhance his looks, or do you women prefer a guy to be more natural? I think there's more stigma for a guy to have surgery, and men are far more likely to keep it private as a result. For instance, I've never discussed it with my male friends, most of them wouldn't really get it, but I guess women would chat openly about this thing.
By the way, I reckon you should get whatever surgery you want, and if it looks good, makes you happy, then it's a total winner!
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You know Lactobazillo
At the end of the day I have to keep myself from masturbating every time I look into the mirror. If I was a guy, I barely could keep my hands off me.
Now Lacto will say " Oh look, people only use you for sex…hahaha.
That is actually pay-off enough to know I did not do anything I will ever regret with my body. Yes, I would not be in a relationship with an unattractive guy, no matter how smart, educated or wealthy he was. But I tried and realized they constantly tell you to relax about something I just don't want to relax about. I don't want to get 40, fat and relaxed with kids who run around while I'm sitting at home. I love the gym, I love eating healthy, I love being attractive and surrounding myself with nice things. And I love attractive, fit men but if there is no soul connection or he is a loser, I'd rather stay alone.
I actually really don't care so much what others think because I have the ideal woman by my side that I created. for myself. She opens doors for me and is creating experiences. Some don't like that I had PS but F*** them, I would rather die than to live in their small minded, boring world. And finally it is my soul who is absorbing and deciding what to make out of the physical experience.
I just don't like to look into a wrinkly woman's face when I get up. It;s ok if I have OCD and probably BDD. I am fine with it. I get irritated and can't concentrate when I have to live in unclean,disorganized environments. I admit, I don't like to be judged as average when I don't see myself as average and people clearly judge you by your appearance before they decide talking to you.
So yes, I use Surgery, Make-up, hair Extensions to create an Illusion. But if I couldn't hold up to it, most people would notice after 5 minutes. But most people praise my intellect and mind far more than my appearance and I am loving it. No man has ever used me for sex, quiet the opposite.
And the ones who are like you, judging women like me, should probably try Claudia Schiffer. She might give you your own experience.
Jesus you are superficial as f**k. Anyway, I mean I don't have to date you so I don't really care, live long and prosper.
I'm just curious though, are you the woman who posted that pic of herself with the red lipstick on and you were interested in having a genioplasty even though you were otherwise pretty and looked fine? With brown hair. I'm just curious if you're that same person and what exactly crawled up your ass and died.
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And jesus do you people not know how to read???
My point was about "ONLINE BEAUTY" that there is an endemic of ugly ass trolls spraypainting themselves and sculpting themselves with photoshop to look pretty on instagram and fb and dating websites and twitter rack up followers and likes just to feed their ego and that in real life most of these women look NASTY. The technology is so good anyone can look hot online. That is they MISREPRESENT THEMSELVES. Maybe not the chicks in that video, but most Instagram whores for sure. That's what I find pathetic.
I don't care if men, women, shims, trannies, two-spirit genders or whoever else gets plastic surgery and looks good. GO FOR IT!!!!
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Just for clarity, Isabelle: you won't date an ugly guy, but if they had enough surgery you would? But would you also have kids with them?
Also, this goes against your story of your friend who married a guy purely for her, but conveniently after she had a bunch of surgery. She wanted to be valued for her and her looks?
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If you get to the point of really loving someone you will have kids with them (regardless of their ugly past).
Hah, well I'd like to think and hope.
Isabelle, which surgeries have you had?
I can't believe all of you have dated models. I've worked with male and female high fashion models when I was younger, and I could only ever dream to be up to that standard. I've never felt more ugly and inadequate in life than when around models (but maybe because I'm so damn short).
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And when you do get kids, you'll probably be having way too much fun with them to even think about your looks!
I really wouldn't worry about the height thing... it's pretty much a non issue for women. I've never heard a guy say he wouldn't date a girl because she was too small. In many ways, they prefer someone shorter. So have you had any surgeries, Bee?
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I never posted any picture of me related to Surgery online.
Yes, something crawled up my ass and died and I am fine with it. It was the caring what others think of me.
No I am not superficial but learned early on that my looks opened every door while my intelligence was overlooked by specific people. But if i also looked good it was acknowledged.
This experience didn't make me insecure, just self aware.
Have you had any skin lift procedures done on your wrinkled cooch?
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Your posts are contradictory btw. Also, if someone notices you had plastic surgery, then you don't look natural.
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They are contradictory if you don't read properly. I WAS NATURAL AT THE BEGINNING.
Now after bone enhancement, I do not look natural,I also bleached my hair to a very light blonde color which certainly makes me even less natural because I am usually dark brown. I still really don't care because when I looked natural, people thought I was more naive. I prefer if people think I'm a b*tch and keep their distance. I still prefer my look today.
They are contradictory, you didn't respond to my previous replies. And again, lol at comparing cutting open your skull and filling your face with a bunch of s**t - because you are not content with how you look - to wearing a different dress. Just shows how far gone and desensitised you are. The very fact you are constantly doing more procedures to change how you look proves that how you look is something you obsess about, and will probably continue to obsess about. I'm glad you like how you look, but it sounds like you've already gone past the best you will every look to most other people based on what you've said, so the fact that you continue to modify yourself is indicative of a mental disorder. Hopefully you don't end up looking like Michael Jackson though. Not sure why you would want people thinking you're a b*tch, maybe your plethora of facial augmentation is a subconscious effort to equate your appearance with your true personality, who knows. Anyways I'm done with this.
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I just wanna know what you look like now Isabella cause you sound like maybe you're hot! PM your pics I won't share, promise.
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Yes I'm totally obsessed :-)
But that's not really a bad thing in my eyes.
And if my looks don't work, I still have my personality;-)
and hopefully a nice smelling cooch!
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here a pic
Lazlo - - - give it up! You have met your match !!! :)
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Lol, am I the only one who doesn't date models? I only know a bunch and they are not even the very attractive kind like gisele, more like the super slim, zombie looking girls and the guys were not the David Gandy kind either, they were the skinny girl looking type some agencies like.
Funnily enough my mother was a somewhat popular runway model in the 70s in my country and she has an overbite lol, but professional pictures are an illusion and being tall and lanky is more important than face. She had these massive high cheekbones though, I didn't inherit :-\.
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And when you do get kids, you'll probably be having way too much fun with them to even think about your looks!
I can only talk of the new mothers that I know, but I think when you become a parent all dignity and care for your looks goes out the door - you'll be walking around half asleep, baby vomit on your clothes, food in your hair (hair, mind you, that you haven't had time to brush) ;D Priorities totally change. I don't have kids myself, but see it happen all around me.
Most parents won't ever see anything wrong with their kids appearance. I wish my parents had organised otoplasty for me when I was a kid, but they didn't see anything wrong with me, despite it being the one feature I was teased about. But teeth are different. Most parents had no qualms taking their child to an ortho and having healthy teeth pulled out. At least when I was young. Opinions are hopefully changing now.
I really wouldn't worry about the height thing... it's pretty much a non issue for women. I've never heard a guy say he wouldn't date a girl because she was too small. In many ways, they prefer someone shorter. So have you had any surgeries, Bee?
I haven't had any surgery yet. I'm considering jaw surgery. But with all the risks and not feeling very confident with the system, maybe instead I'll just try to replicate it with ortho, fillers and chin/neck lipo. IDK.
The height thing is an insecurity I have. It makes me feel like a 12 yr old. I was out with my parents the other day and someone asked them what year of school I'm in! Crazy. I should probably feel complimented, but I know it's not my face (as I've got premature aging). I hate wearing heels though. I know I don't have it as bad as short guys, but I think my life would've been different if I were taller. I guess we all have our areas we like to blame.
4 Years ago, I had Implants in my cheeks, jaw tightening and Jaw Line Enhancement.
Which procedures are jaw tightening and Jaw Line Enhancement?
Is that Lipo? Fillers? Implants? Or the effect from BSSO?
It's so much fun to be a woman, put make-up on, take pictures and enjoy being such a beautiful creature. WTF IS WRONG ABOUT THAT?
I think it's wonderful that you love it. There's nothing wrong with that.
I know it's cliche, but women respond that way because they're jealous. It's as simple as that. If they could trade places with you, you bet your life they would.
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Yes people's surgery outcomes are beyond their control yet if the outcome is bad then people question their intelligence or mental stability, if the outcome is good then they are congratulated for their calculated and well chosen procedures.
Having said that, Cindy Jackson certainly has the intellect to choose procedures and surgeons well, I saw her on Sky News yesterday and she looked phenomenal.
She did bone cutting surgeries purely for cosmetic purposes ( no bite issues or deformities) wayy before... well still, I can't say it's mainstream now but there are people like us talking about it.