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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: TestNamePleaseIgnore on June 12, 2016, 06:57:02 PM
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This is for the people here who have already had jaw surgery already. Did it meet your expectations? I am asking because I am on the fence about whether to get double jaw or not. I have already consulted with a surgeon and he has already laid out the plan should i choose to get it done. I currently have vme, underbite, and flat chin. Its weird because my upper and lower jaw grew disproportionately together so I have a nice bite. Functionally there is nothing wrong its just that I hate my gummy smile, mentalis strain, and having to put effort in keeping my mouth closed. I realize all my complaints are cosmetic although I still mouth breathe at night which i f**king hate. So that's why I am asking you fine folks if indeed it was worth the surgery. I have the money to pay for the surgery but this is one of the things I really don't want to regret cause it will be 40k down the drain and looking uglier than I already am.
My surgical plan is to move my upper jaw up around 5mm and forward 2mm, lower jaw setback around 3mm, and possible sliding genioplasty.
Thanks for looking
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It was worth it to me. I wish I would have had it done when I was younger, but I didn't want to wear braces. I'm glad I did it. I had double jaw surgery and a sliding genioplasty.
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why its 40k worth? who is ur surgeon
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why its 40k worth? who is ur surgeon
25k for surgeon
12k for hospital stay (1 night i think)
3k for braces
1k for anaesthesia
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It was worth it to me. I wish I would have had it done when I was younger, but I didn't want to wear braces. I'm glad I did it. I had double jaw surgery and a sliding genioplasty.
how tough was the recovery? thanks for reply
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It really depends on the person. For me it was not worth it. But nobody would have been able to change my mind before I had it. So go through with it. The risk is high but the benefits could also be as rewarding.
If i may ask what were the reasons it was unsatisfying to you? thanks
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Thanks to jaw surgery, I have a rock solid bite, questionable aesthetic improvement (I look younger but still off) and stupendous nerve damage.
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Thanks to jaw surgery, I have a rock solid bite, questionable aesthetic improvement (I look younger but still off) and stupendous nerve damage.
what did u have done?
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what did u have done?
Lf1 advancement.
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Except from some nerve damage (which i think is a given in most cases) and some tightness around the incision scar, i'm very pleased. I'm actually thinking of repeating the whole Lf1+BSSO thing just to get some more forward projection.
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Except from some nerve damage (which i think is a given in most cases) and some tightness around the incision scar, i'm very pleased. I'm actually thinking of repeating the whole Lf1+BSSO thing just to get some more forward projection.
holy crap. isnt that seriously expensive?
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Because of the issues I experienced and do experience after having it.
My bite was better before. I had a lot of fat loss in the face, on my temples and below my cheeks because I wanted to try a severe advancement. It looked (and felt) terrible and had to be reversed. So to some point it is my own fault but the doctor didn't tell me that there could be issues. I felt after my first surgery that there wasn't really any change in my profile so I had it moved forward even further. Big Mistake. I was swollen for over 4 months and it looked like an infection. The procedure had to be reversed. Some strange Nerve damage occurred already after the first surgery (lip was pulled up on one side of the face) so I would have needed a revision anyway.
Altogether, it was one of the worst experiences of my life.
wait so you had jaw surgery, then a further jaw surgery, and then a revision jaw surgery?
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Isabella, I'm fairly certain I also experienced fat loss around my under eye area from a rhinoplasty... fat loss is a terrible trade off imo, but I guess there's worse. What did they do to fix your lower lip nerve damage?
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Those that regret surgery are usually the ones who had no functional issues before and generally liked the way they looked, but wanted to look better.
Lip strain is a functional issue. Just make sure not to over impact add that is ageing.
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holy crap. isnt that seriously expensive?
Countries like Germany is pretty cheap, e.g. 10 000€ +
What many people here don't seems to understand is that jaw surgery will almost certain produce some sort of health disadvantage (nerve damage) and the procedure sometimes alone will not make you look better as it will often require you to get more surgery down the line. There is no doubt that a forward grown face is beneficial both in looks (makes you look overall healty and younger --> stretches out your soft tissue and gives it support and improves function (airways etc), but bringing the face a lot forward will widen and turn your nose upwards and leave your malars behind thus you'll be needing rhinoplasty and implants after to really be able to assess the result from the jaw surgery. But when it's all done, and with a bit of luck, your result will look superior to all other PS. Impaction on the other hand is generally bad on aesthetics and should be avoided.
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Yeah I don't know I need my face to be stretched out as my soft tissue is full and heavy and just sags on my face.
So I want an extreme movement to stretch it out and make it taut like a tent. I think I'll be better looking that way. But phase 1 is just bi-max and chin wing, then i'll need the cheeks done second.
f**king frig, i have fat loss at the temples too from like injuries and stuff. I hope there's a reliable way to have fat restored and not look done. Women can still be hot if they look like that had PS but men look like f**king freaks.
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Yeah I don't know I need my face to be stretched out as my soft tissue is full and heavy and just sags on my face.
So I want an extreme movement to stretch it out and make it taut like a tent. I think I'll be better looking that way. But phase 1 is just bi-max and chin wing, then i'll need the cheeks done second.
I had the same issue. Despite low body fat, my face was chubby. Basically you got too much soft tissue for your facial bones to support. Advancing everything like 1 cm forward will most definitely make it all a lot more taut. Combine it with a chin wing and malar implants and you got something close to a LF3 and a very good improvement from your old face. Most of the anteface-hate is based on the midface getting left behind which is understandable, but bringing the malars/zygos with it and a anteface is superior to everything else.
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I had the same issue. Despite low body fat, my face was chubby. Basically you got too much soft tissue for your facial bones to support. Advancing everything like 1 cm forward will most definitely make it all a lot more taut. Combine it with a chin wing and malar implants and you got something close to a LF3 and a very good improvement from your old face. Most of the anteface-hate is based on the midface getting left behind which is understandable, but bringing the malars/zygos with it and a anteface is superior to everything else.
truth, that's my plan, though I am going for the lf3 basically as well not implants. but hopin my face stops looking like it's f**king FALLING OFFF!!!!! It's only gonna get so much worse as I age!!!
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f**king frig, i have fat loss at the temples too from like injuries and stuff.
can you explain this a bit more? trauma and fat loss. lazlo, what kind of injury caused this at your temples? from your awful incident a few months ago? if yes, you noticed the change that quickly?
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I am also curious as to an explanation of the mechanisms behind fat atrophy as a result of trauma..
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I looked really really haggard before surgery. 10 years older probably. If anything the maxillary advancement made me look much younger. Only 5-6 mms.
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I would say yes, I had a lefort 1.
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Yes, no regrets. My only regret is that I wish I had gotten it done sooner.
However, it did introduce a few complications in my life that were a bit difficult to diagnose. My eyes also became sunken like it's been described here including a few other complications like puffy face, cold intolerance, etc. However, only in the last few months (and I'm almost a year post-op) has it greatly diminished/disappeared. I've been supplementing with Iodine for the past few weeks since I believe the jaw surgery stress might have caused my body to go into a state of hypothyroidism. Sunken eyes is also one of its symptoms. I urge everyone who is struggling with sunken eyes or fat atrophy around their eyes to also take into account other symptoms they might be experiencing. Don't forget that jaw surgery is a stressful event which could cause underlying health issues to come out of the woodwork.
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Personally for me it wasn't worth it, but every persons risk vs. reward is different. If you are in a super bad amount of pain, can't function, or your so aesthetically devastated that it's ruining your life, then I would say consider surgery in this last resort phase you're in. If you are functioning now and overall OK with how things are, then why risk making them worse? I started out with an 8-9mm overjet, overbite, pretty bad gummy smile, narrow arches. Classic class II. Braces only would never get me full class I. In terms of my function, I felt OK enough to just do braces and call it a day. I had no joint issues, but my face muscles were always tired, strained, and I had pretty consistent headaches. My back teeth were being worn so badly they were nearing full restoration. Otherwise, I was functioning and I think ortho only could have taken care of a lot of these functional issues for me, even if I was never full perfect class I. My doctors pretty much scared me in to it. Told me surgery was no big thing and it would all be OK. Everybody is doing it now vs. when I was younger and needed it, and if I didn't get it my joints would deteriorate and need replacement, teeth would constantly need to be restored, and all this other doom and gloom. I listed and went surgery and surgery did nothing but make me a lot worse. So, based on my experience, weigh the risk vs. the reward. If you are at rock bottom with not much to lose, then go for it. I had a lot to lose, and unfortunately I lost it and would have been better off without the surgery.
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Personally for me it wasn't worth it, but every persons risk vs. reward is different. If you are in a super bad amount of pain, can't function, or your so aesthetically devastated that it's ruining your life, then I would say consider surgery in this last resort phase you're in. If you are functioning now and overall OK with how things are, then why risk making them worse? I started out with an 8-9mm overjet, overbite, pretty bad gummy smile, narrow arches. Classic class II. Braces only would never get me full class I. In terms of my function, I felt OK enough to just do braces and call it a day. I had no joint issues, but my face muscles were always tired, strained, and I had pretty consistent headaches. My back teeth were being worn so badly they were nearing full restoration. Otherwise, I was functioning and I think ortho only could have taken care of a lot of these functional issues for me, even if I was never full perfect class I. My doctors pretty much scared me in to it. Told me surgery was no big thing and it would all be OK. Everybody is doing it now vs. when I was younger and needed it, and if I didn't get it my joints would deteriorate and need replacement, teeth would constantly need to be restored, and all this other doom and gloom. I listed and went surgery and surgery did nothing but make me a lot worse. So, based on my experience, weigh the risk vs. the reward. If you are at rock bottom with not much to lose, then go for it. I had a lot to lose, and unfortunately I lost it and would have been better off without the surgery.
Would you say the same if you had your original surgery with your revision surgeon? You suffered what is probable medical malpractice, most people aren't going to go through what you did in the US.