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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: Rikenen on July 02, 2016, 11:51:48 AM

Title: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: Rikenen on July 02, 2016, 11:51:48 AM

Can someone explain this please? God... As if there weren't enough things to worry about with this surgery



https://head-face-med.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1746-160X-5-5

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: ismic on July 02, 2016, 02:47:24 PM

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When the vomeronasal organ is removed or damaged during a maxillary osteotomy, the inhibitory function is lost, the patient loses the involuntary ability to exclude inappropriate mates, may become less committed to an existing mate, or even become promiscuous.

TL;DR Lefort 1 may turn you into a slut.

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: needadvancement on July 02, 2016, 03:12:02 PM

What the heck? Sounds crazy.

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: ismic on July 03, 2016, 01:48:35 AM

More seriously, here's what I understood by quickly skimming over the article: a Lefort 1 might damage the "vomeronasal organ" (VNO). What is the VNO, you might ask?

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In mammals, the vomeronasal organ (VNO), also known as Jacobson's organ, is a chemosensory organ, the function of which is still not precisely known. In some phylogenetically older animals, such as mice or rats, the VNO is most likely used in the detection of pheromones, [...]

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The presence and role of the VNO in humans remains controversial. Some reports state that it completely regresses during fetal development, while others are emphatic regarding its presence in humans.

The authors make the bold assumption that the VNO does in fact exist in human adults, and furthermore that it has the function of detecting pheromones, and thus influences your mating behavior (i.e. humans subconsciously select their mates based on their "scent"). By connecting the dots, the authors propose that a Lefort 1 (or other types of orthognathic surgeries) might remove your ability to "filter out" potential mates that have a "bad" scent or to establish lasting bonds with those who have "good" pheromones.

To me this sounds very far-fetched. And it conveniently ignores the fact that your mating behavior can only be improved when you fix your jaw  :P ;)

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: Vic on July 03, 2016, 01:51:17 AM

That's just stupid and I wouldn't give it anymore thought. Why don't you ask people that have had a Lefort 1 and see if that's the case with them.

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: JawKid7 on July 03, 2016, 05:07:07 PM

wow this is crazy

Title: Re: Lefort 1 and damage to the vomeronasal organ... Can someone explain this?
Post by: stupidjaws on July 04, 2016, 12:20:11 AM

seems legit to me and congruent to my behaviour.