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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: x on May 17, 2013, 12:40:34 AM

Title: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 17, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
this is a central part of surgery right? right now the corners of my lips droop giving me a natural frown when relaxed, and I always get asked why I'm so unhappy when I'm not; it's more than a bit irritating. Also I wouldn't be surprised if I repel people on facial expression alone. So... fixing this is a major goal for me

current lip posture looks like this:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/everlong15/Surgery%20Photos%202/a38bf67f.jpg)


when I smirk, my lips are in what i would consider an 'ideal' position, but this is only when I use my muscles to do so
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 17, 2013, 09:50:34 AM
Guys this is important, pls rspnd
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: Kristen on May 17, 2013, 09:52:08 AM
I'm sure it gets better after surgery but what does your surgeon say?
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 17, 2013, 09:56:29 AM
Thanks  :). I completely forgot to ask, I don't have a dedicated surgeon picked out yet

Lip changes after surgery are under-discussed here imo. I have full lips that I don't want to lose with surgery (don't want them to thin out) but I hope the lips get better support and maybe a bit wider on the face.

Would also be good to hear from post-op people if they've had issues smiling or anything lip related
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: pekay on May 17, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
that blonde girl had LSF, she had an impaction + upper/lower advancement + genio and CCW

she is 16
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: Kristen on May 17, 2013, 10:48:02 AM
Who did her surgery?
Euphoria.... Do oral myology exercises by yourself or with a therapist...  I have personally seen it work wonders on lip posture and incompetence.    And it can only help you if you get surgery to maintain results.
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: pekay on May 17, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
Who did her surgery?

Dr Johan.P. Reyneke
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 17, 2013, 11:01:39 AM
Who did her surgery?
Euphoria.... Do oral myology exercises by yourself or with a therapist...  I have personally seen it work wonders on lip posture and incompetence.    And it can only help you if you get surgery to maintain results.
That's what I'll do after surgery, my tonged thrust destroyed any progress I made with orthodontics so getting it corrected is a high priority
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: Kristen on May 17, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
If you punch in oral myology in you tube I'm sure some will come up.
I will try to put some on a post.
I'm just limited what I can do on the iPad.   So it has to be when I can get to the main computer.
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: CK on May 17, 2013, 11:21:44 AM
i still have minor lip incompetence (now) but i think more to do with soft tissue changes than the changing position of the mouth. not something i would stress over
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: Modigliani on May 17, 2013, 01:36:41 PM
'Tongue thrust' always makes me giggle  ;D
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: Lazlo on May 17, 2013, 01:59:18 PM
Dr Johan.P. Reyneke

this guy is supposed to be one of the best in the world. unfortunately he's in south aftrica.
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: pekay on May 17, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
this guy is supposed to be one of the best in the world. unfortunately he's in south aftrica.

Lazlo: I don't think you're being aggressive enough with your surgery plans. me, personally? I'm going for a Le Fort III, BSSO, Genio, mandible implants sculpted out of gold, carbon fiber cheek implants, silver coated tear through implants and a new silicone tongue

I guess what I'm trying to say is if you want a good result you must go to the BEST surgeon available even if it means traveling half-way around the world.
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: pumukka on May 18, 2013, 05:54:47 AM
Yeah but even sometimes going to the best of the world you can still have complications or something, and its a ton of money to go back to fix it or even live there for a while, but if one can afford it great!

Whats his website?
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: pekay on May 18, 2013, 07:12:41 AM
Yeah but even sometimes going to the best of the world you can still have complications or something, and its a ton of money to go back to fix it or even live there for a while, but if one can afford it great!

Whats his website?


my last post was a joke, sorry :) I couldn't resist

as far as I know Reyneke doesn't have a website
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 31, 2013, 04:16:35 PM
finally discovered the anatomical term for the type of lips I was describing, 'everted lips'. They are described as: hypertrophied lips with redundant tissue but weak muscular tonicity. I wonder if botox would be required in addition to surgery to correct it?

(http://www.braceyourself.org/Portals/0/UltraPhotoGallery/533/60/[1].396.jpg)
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: CK on May 31, 2013, 04:51:31 PM
the muscles would have to be strengthened through exercises.
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: x on May 31, 2013, 05:12:35 PM
the muscles would have to be strengthened through exercises.
That was standard procedure as part of your recovery with Gunson right?
Title: Re: Lip support after surgery
Post by: stupidjaws on May 31, 2013, 05:13:42 PM
did this strengthening occur?