Did a quick morph for you (others here are better at morphs than me, but I'm just trying to give you a general idea)
Guys can you look at this girl's surgery results? Do you think it was successful? I'm asking because she's from my country and surgery is cheap here but not sure about results. I think her profile is too strong now and her lower jaw looks little asymmetrical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gXCldPGExI&t=78s Would appreciate if you could take a look.
Think that looks way overdone, did another test what it could look like.
Is this achievable? How many mm of advancement would effect this change do you think ?
While your chin is clearly too recessed, too much advancement will look out of balance with your forehead. Careful with this!
In order to get the ideal amount of advancement, your forehead would also have to move forward (magically - sorry, there isn't a good solution to this).
Attached is the ideal balance imo, but I would advise against against this kind of advancement otherwise...
While your chin is clearly too recessed, too much advancement will look out of balance with your forehead. Careful with this!
In order to get the ideal amount of advancement, your forehead would also have to move forward (magically - sorry, there isn't a good solution to this).
Attached is the ideal balance imo, but I would advise against against this kind of advancement otherwise...
Interested what you think about this case. Too much advancement?
Interested what you think about this case. Too much advancement?
Given this case, with a retruded maxilla, it's probably a fine outcome. His lower jaw in the after has a very aggressive balance now and his nose is slightly upturned and compacted.
I can't see all the variables in your case, I'm just one of the more conservative people on here. Your upper lip position is already at a good position relative to your other features. I just want to caution you to not overdo it.
I've attached what I think would be the right balance for your forehead.
Could someone explain to me what posterior maxillary downgraft actually means? Thank you
It means bringing the landmark PNS of the maxilla vertically down.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Johan_Jansma/publication/264936795/figure/fig1/AS:608686481346560@1522133574245/Cephalometric-landmarks-and-reference-lines-traced-on-lateral-cephalograms-The-following.png
So is CCW possible without posterior downgraft? If yes what difference would it make?
Yes, it would mean to bring ANS vertically up instead.
Thank you. I mean the difference in results? For example in my case?
Also I think my face looks kinda short. I have a big forehead. Do you guys think I would benefit from down genio or just forward genio? SARPE?
Hello everyone!
What can I do to fix my face? x-ray is old from 2015 before braces. I had braces for almost 2 years, but I knew it wouldn't fix anything. Lip incompetence, gummy smile, nonexistent jawline and small chin.I just wanna look normal. I've been on consultation with local surgeon and he said I need counterclockwise rotation. What do you guys think?
Agree with the CWW with posterior downgraft advice. Kavan gave you some very good advice in addition.
Dunno if you're interested in other aesthetic comments, but in the side view your superior lateral browbones seem recessed too making your lateral brows look droopy. It affects your orbital area and takes away from a masculine look. My point of view anyhow. Not too easy to fix though and most maxillofacial surgeons seem to ignore the orbital area. Imo it means they don't look at the entire picture.
Did a new ceph today with a normal head position(compared to my old ceph, they also confirmed is was wrong) and it looks different and I don't see how to advance my lower jaw it is almost already in line with my forehead. Could you guys take a look?
https://imgur.com/aEecFRl
Did a new ceph today with a normal head position(compared to my old ceph, they also confirmed is was wrong) and it looks different and I don't see how to advance my lower jaw it is almost already in line with my forehead. Could you guys take a look?
https://imgur.com/aEecFRl
First ceph with head tilted down, shows jaw retrusion and chin recession with what looks to be a small airway. It is consistent with the suggestion for CCW and chin advance.
Second ceph with head more upright, shows jaw retrusion and chin recession with what looks to be a small airway. It is also consistent with the suggestion for CCW and chin advance.
Conclusion: Both cephs show jaw retrusion and chin recession with what looks to be a small airway. Both cephs are consistent with suggestion for CCW and chin advance to address what bothers you, ("Lip incompetence, gummy smile, nonexistent jawline and small chin.").
Kavan I am worried lefort advancement will make me look worse as I already have prominent anterior nasal spine. My upper lip would protrude even more. Can max fax do anything about it or is it rhino work?
Should have been something like this I guess?
Besides jaw- and chinwork this could maybe be achieved with browridge implant + lowering hairline + nosejob + forehead shave. Jaw + chin if done well will bring you up though.
I'll probably be downvoted for this but, with all due respect, that morph looks like a freakshow. I would suggest more the opposite of this, as few procedures as possible to bring lower third into a more favorable place. No disrespect intended...
Prosfer: some amount of CCW + advancement would probably not cause much (if any) disruption to your nose.
Kavan I am worried lefort advancement will make me look worse as I already have prominent anterior nasal spine. My upper lip would protrude even more. Can max fax do anything about it or is it rhino work?