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Title: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on August 30, 2020, 10:11:19 AM
Hi everyone, on Thursday i had a revision surgery.  The hardest part was having the coronoid removed.  It was starting to bridge to the zygomatic, it was like Jack and the Beanstalk.  Maxilla advanced 3, widened 5.  Too early to tell if i will get function, but hopeful.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: Lazlo on August 30, 2020, 01:55:18 PM
Hi everyone, on Thursday i had a revision surgery.  The hardest part was having the coronoid removed.  It was starting to bridge to the zygomatic, it was like Jack and the Beanstalk.  Maxilla advanced 3, widened 5.  Too early to tell if i will get function, but hopeful.


who did your revision?
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on August 30, 2020, 02:04:48 PM

who did your revision?

I am trying to upload photos but cant for some reason. Dr. Sullivan in OKC!
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on August 30, 2020, 02:10:30 PM

who did your revision?
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: kavan on August 30, 2020, 02:30:58 PM
Congrats and happy healing.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on August 30, 2020, 04:08:02 PM
Congrats and happy healing.

Thank you Kavan!
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: PloskoPlus on August 31, 2020, 12:01:54 AM
You look pretty good for 3 days. Hope the bite fits. No BSSO?
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on August 31, 2020, 07:24:12 AM
You look pretty good for 3 days. Hope the bite fits. No BSSO?

Thank you!  The mandible cant be fixed. On the left side it was hyper rotated out, and took the coronoid and my joint with it. The removal of the coronoid was much more difficult than expected as it had started to make fibrous bridge to the zygomatic as time went on. Just trying to make the best of a bad situation. I have a long road ahead but it feels so good not to have my maxilla jammed back and up and to have the pull  on the coronoid removed.  My swelling in the area of the coronoid removal is LESS now than it was before surgery. The bite is going to need some fine tuning. I got 5 mm of upper expansion and 3mm of advancement, more on one side to match the mandible that was advanced more on one side. Here is the 3D model of the coronoid impingment.  I was liucky to find a surgeon that understands the joint and coronoid.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: InvisalignOnly on September 01, 2020, 03:39:18 AM
Good luck, I really hope you get a good result this time. It's brave of you to undergo a second surgery after the first experience you had with this type of procedure.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: eastcoastian1 on November 13, 2020, 10:24:54 PM
Hi everyone, on Thursday i had a revision surgery.  The hardest part was having the coronoid removed.  It was starting to bridge to the zygomatic, it was like Jack and the Beanstalk.  Maxilla advanced 3, widened 5.  Too early to tell if i will get function, but hopeful.

How are you coming along? I was thinking of consulting with Dr. Sullivan has I’m hearing some good things and won’t need to be pay 100k+ like I would with Gunson (I have a complex case).
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on November 15, 2020, 06:05:04 PM
How are you coming along? I was thinking of consulting with Dr. Sullivan has I’m hearing some good things and won’t need to be pay 100k+ like I would with Gunson (I have a complex case).

I am doing really well! I still cannot believe that Dr. Sullivan was able to help me and continues to help.  My mandible could not be fixed from all the damage caused to it plus the nerve damage and compression from the first surgery, so i remain off to one side. I am starting to realize that it may not regain function on the left.  That said my upper arch fits my lower much better and  the ungodly front compression, the pulling from the coronoid attachment and the severe swelling i had on the left mandible is mostly gone. I am able to chew soft foods on the right side and the chewing motion is more normal. I am hopeful that things will come together better as still some terrible pain on the left.  I also cannot express enough  how much i wished I was in the hands of Dr. Sullivan for my first surgery.  Unlike Gunson, he has surgical partners to bounce ideas off, to look at complex cases —Its called arnett gunson, but its only gunson as a solo practitioner now. I wish you all the best to find the right solutions and best outcome. Below is  a photo at ten weeks (right) and my surgery with gunson (left)
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on November 15, 2020, 06:20:07 PM
You look pretty good for 3 days. Hope the bite fits. No BSSO?


I just saw this, sorry i did not responsd. No, the damage to my mandible from the first surgery plus the nerve damage made it too risky to fix the lower. The coronoid removal itself was not routine and was actually kind of wild, the release was wild when they detached it. My mandible was symmetrical before my surgery with gunson, but he just lost control of the segment. So my upper was advanced more on one side to match up better with what was done at the first surgery. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: Lazlo on November 15, 2020, 11:08:14 PM
I am doing really well! I still cannot believe that Dr. Sullivan was able to help me and continues to help.  My mandible could not be fixed from all the damage caused to it plus the nerve damage and compression from the first surgery, so i remain off to one side. I am starting to realize that it may not regain function on the left.  That said my upper arch fits my lower much better and  the ungodly front compression, the pulling from the coronoid attachment and the severe swelling i had on the left mandible is mostly gone. I am able to chew soft foods on the right side and the chewing motion is more normal. I am hopeful that things will come together better as still some terrible pain on the left.  I also cannot express enough  how much i wished I was in the hands of Dr. Sullivan for my first surgery.  Unlike Gunson, he has surgical partners to bounce ideas off, to look at complex cases —Its called arnett gunson, but its only gunson as a solo practitioner now. I wish you all the best to find the right solutions and best outcome. Below is  a photo at ten weeks (right) and my surgery with gunson (left)


Certainly quite an improvement.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on November 16, 2020, 10:48:08 AM

Certainly quite an improvement.


Thank you! What is amazing to me is how much the position of the maxilla can affect cheek support.  I had no grafting or augmentation  and I look so much like i did before surgery and  I am grateful for that i have more of my old face back.  All of my life  i enjoyed my upper jaw forward and i took biting into sandwiches for granted, so my fingers are crossed for continued healing. My nasal breathing is better too with the upper expansion.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: kavan on November 16, 2020, 11:56:18 AM
Looks like the pre-surgery (edge to edge?) bite was forcing your chin down to look long from front. Now, the chin looks much better and also you can see the overlap in the bite. Nice improvement.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: DRIVVEN on November 16, 2020, 12:16:41 PM
Looks like the pre-surgery (edge to edge?) bite was forcing your chin down to look long from front. Now, the chin looks much better and also you can see the overlap in the bite. Nice improvement.

Thank you. And thank you for all of your insight generally in this forum, such as my maxilla is tight especially under the nose in the area of the alar stitch, it feels so wierd and tight and i read in here recently  your posts on the topic—-that these feelings are pretty normal especially a few months out. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: kavan on November 16, 2020, 12:27:17 PM
Thank you. And thank you for all of your insight generally in this forum, such as my maxilla is tight especially under the nose in the area of the alar stitch, it feels so wierd and tight and i read in here recently  your posts on the topic—-that these feelings are pretty normal especially a few months out. Thanks again.

Well, it certainly would tend to feel tight given the maxillary movements that put somewhat of a 'stretch' on the muscles over the bone.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: InvisalignOnly on November 16, 2020, 07:33:12 PM
Huge improvement, hopefully functionally as well. You look great and sound so upbeat, despite everything that you have been through. I'm so happy for you and hope things will only get better for you from now.
Title: Re: Three Days Post-OP
Post by: JourneyToSerenity on November 25, 2020, 05:36:17 AM
It's really nice to see you in an upbeat mood having had a successful revision surgery. How did you come across Dr.Sullivan if you don't mind me asking? I haven't heard his name mentioned on here before.