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General Category => Functional Surgery Questions => Topic started by: spacejanitor on March 12, 2013, 07:02:37 PM
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I know it's sort of the wildcard around here, as I think most of us are from North America or Europe, but South Korea does seem to have a very competent jaw surgery practice. Specifically, id Hospital has appeared in a few places online as having produced good results, but I haven't seen enough hard feedback to really be able to say one way or the other.
My case is a little complicated as I had braces after removing 3 wisdom teeth and a bicuspid, and their "Surgery First" approach, if actually a good idea and not a gimmick, would be far easier for me to swallow. That way, once the jaw recovers, the teeth could be aligned to their "proper" positions more easily... at least, it seems logical that way to me. Otherwise, I would need to create a space and implant a tooth, which from what I have read, is lengthy and somewhat risky.
I don't know whether surgery-first would work with a missing bicuspid. I suppose it depends on whether the surgeon is able to skillfully reposition the maxilla and mandible based on the position of the jaw alone. They seem to specialize in this, from what I have read. Still, that would suggest they are more advanced in their techniques than most surgeons in North America.
Arnett seems to put a large focus on the airway, not just bite and aesthetics, which is also essential for me, as my jaw is slightly open at rest, and this contributes to my sleep apnea. I have not read much from other surgeons about their focus on the airway.
Any South Korea patients here, or considering?
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I know this is an old one, but I am seriously considering Korea. Ideally, I'd get out there for a couple of months and just do surgeries the whole time.
In general, their 'good' results (particularly for women) surpass anything I've seen anywhere else. If you're a guy, I'd be more cautious. No risk of a masculine look with them.
However, I am recessed and long-faced. That's my particular problem. I'm sure a Lefort impaction and hemifacial bite asymmetry correction would be within their range, but I need rotation of the jaw as well. I'm not interested in v-line although I do like the less extreme egs of their 'heart shaped' faces.
Word out there is that "EverM" are the ones to consider for "Western"-style jaw surgeries. However, trips back and forth would be needed to assess whether the hype matches the reality.
I want to get the remnant of my genio revised at the same time along with a revision rhino, scar revision, revision eye work and jaw surgery. But as experience has taught me, I doubt it's the panacea that they'd have you believe.
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Hello ragirl. I am planning to go to Seoul for double jaw and genioplasty revision. I am looking into various options. What did you do at the end?
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I had a look at idhospital
They do surgery first and they do a LOT of people.
That said, I am cautious because the korean aesthetic is seriously different to that of the caucasian one, and even if you specify otherwise, these big business private hospitals tend to stick to their comfort zone.
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Going to South Korea for surgery??? Are you completely insane?!! It seems, nothing is to crazy for you when it comes to surgery! Today a Lefort III, tomorrow jaw surgery in South Korea.
I know a person who ended up with serious nerve damage after zygomatic reduction in Id Hospital. This thread should be deleted, it is dangerous. I will report it to the admin!
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South Korea care more about aesthetics and the look than they do about function. So although you may get the look you want, the off
side to that will be health issues going forward. I've heard of people having breathing difficulties after the surgery
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South Korea care more about aesthetics and the look than they do about function. So although you may get the look you want, the off
side to that will be health issues going forward. I've heard of people having breathing difficulties after the surgery
And of course, they pay people to advertise or give surgery discounts if people let them use their faces on billboards in subway stations.
And there is the almost universal photoshop curse that is associated with every single set of Korean before/after pictures I have seen anywhere on the internet.
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Hello ragirl. I am planning to go to Seoul for double jaw and genioplasty revision. I am looking into various options. What did you do at the end?
Hi Lulaki, I'm still considering Korea. I heard that the place to get surgery is Ever M Dental - not "ID" though, as there are bad reviews about that place.
What went wrong with your genioplasty? Mine was botched in the USA.
Are you in contact with any of the clinics?
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Hi Lulaki, I'm still considering Korea. I heard that the place to get surgery is Ever M Dental - not "ID" though, as there are bad reviews about that place.
What went wrong with your genioplasty? Mine was botched in the USA.
Are you in contact with any of the clinics?
How was yours botched?
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Everm botched one patient pn another forum.
Names thrown around have been everm and the face dental
Both of them can work with ortho in your own country
ID hospital has had deaths. Avoid
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Everm botched one patient pn another forum.
Names thrown around have been everm and the face dental
Both of them can work with ortho in your own country
ID hospital has had deaths. Avoid
Please give us some info on where to go in Korea - are EverM and Face no-gos?
What about Korea for revisions? Do you have any info on this?
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How was yours botched?
Too much advancement, massive amount cut off and I had an overbite/asymmetry of the maxilla and mandible to begin with, which now looks worse.
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Avoid id hospital it becmes a factory now. everm dental and zeah dental are very good. they care not only esthetics but also functions.
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ragiril: in my case also too big adjustment...take a look http://jawsurgeryforums.com/index.php?topic=6746.msg56774#msg56774
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The ID-Hospital leaves me baffled: I mean, how can anyone remove so much of the lower third and still have it function properly?
But I also see that nobody leaves the ID-hospital looking more handsome or having anything even remotely resembling a good jawline or chin. The overall goal just seems to be "reduce and cut off until the patient looks pre-puberty".
Those surgeries may be fine for women who want to be ultra, super girly, but they are total instant castration for men!
On the other hand, I bet pedophiles are very thankful for the ID-Hospital.. and that's not even a joke.
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Many Koreans, Chinese consider square faces to be barbarian (northern nomads like Mongols) and dislike that look. AFAIK Koreans are genetically related to Mongols.
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Famous plastic surgery model Pixiee Fox just had a bimax at ID hospital in south korea. She was beautiful before all the plastic surgery, like gorgeous. Didnt need a bimax but has had over 100 procedures by now so might aswell i guess, even if for no reason atall, which it seems is the case. hope she looks better after
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Famous plastic surgery model Pixiee Fox just had a bimax at ID hospital in south korea. She was beautiful before all the plastic surgery, like gorgeous. Didnt need a bimax but has had over 100 procedures by now so might aswell i guess, even if for no reason atall, which it seems is the case. hope she looks better after
This is what makes me REALLY pissed off. How can a surgeon even justify doing BIMAX on someone with a perfect bone structure, yet turn down people who are genuinely in need?
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If someone wants a bimax, they are of sound mind it can be done safely, and have realistic expectations, i dont see a problem with it
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This is what makes me REALLY pissed off. How can a surgeon even justify doing BIMAX on someone with a perfect bone structure, yet turn down people who are genuinely in need?
I'm actually pretty sure that Pixie Fox didn't actually have any jaw surgery done. It seems like the whole thing was just a publicity stunt to promote the ID-Hospital and to introduce Pixie to an Asian audience. There's only footage of her doing a meet-and-greet with the doctors and staff, and then getting some trivial facial spa treatment.
One of the taglines of the ID-Hospital is something along the lines of "perfect doll-like face" and it seems that the Japanese are obsessed with the dainty, doll-like aesthetic, which also explains the surgery outcomes for many of the men. Having Pixie at the hospital would serve as good promotion since she looks very artificial and doll-like.
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I'm actually pretty sure that Pixie Fox didn't actually have any jaw surgery done. It seems like the whole thing was just a publicity stunt to promote the ID-Hospital and to introduce Pixie to an Asian audience. There's only footage of her doing a meet-and-greet with the doctors and staff, and then getting some trivial facial spa treatment.
One of the taglines of the ID-Hospital is something along the lines of "perfect doll-like face" and it seems that the Japanese are obsessed with the dainty, doll-like aesthetic, which also explains the surgery outcomes for many of the men. Having Pixie at the hospital would serve as good promotion since she looks very artificial and doll-like.
No, that's Koreans. ID-Hospital is in Seoul.
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No, that's Koreans. ID-Hospital is in Seoul.
Okay, I didn't know that.
But I watched a handful of videos from the ID-hospital(or maybe the reality TV-show that sends them there?) and they kept repeating the phrase "perfect doll-like face" whenever a girl had gone through the machine. They also used that phrase in one of the videos with Pixie.
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I follow her insta and shes clearly swolen post bimax. She looks pretty good.
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Is the latest pic of her (at the hairdresser) post bimax?
Her face looks super small and eerie.
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Wow, Pixie was incredibly beautiful before. I had no idea.
She's still alright but looks like she's constantly swollen from an accident or domestic abuse. Not the best look.
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goes to show the psychological nature of plastic surgery obsession. its not about looking better, elevating social status or attracting what you want in life. Sometimes its just, an obsession.