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Title: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: Millis on April 03, 2017, 08:33:28 PM
A patient (of unknown surgeon) told me that he could pay for only 70% of his surgery cost up-front, the rest later.


I'm extremely curious, does anybody know if Dr. Zarrinbal offers this sort of payment plan? Is it typical for European surgeons? Or does he request full payment upfront?
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: MyTimeIsNow on April 03, 2017, 10:06:42 PM
It surprises me that any surgeon would do this.

If you need financing, there are places to get credit.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: Vic on April 05, 2017, 09:47:28 AM
A patient (of unknown surgeon) told me that he could pay for only 70% of his surgery cost up-front, the rest later.


I'm extremely curious, does anybody know if Dr. Zarrinbal offers this sort of payment plan? Is it typical for European surgeons? Or does he request full payment upfront?

Full payment up front with Dr Z because you have to pay the hospital
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: rolo2000 on May 31, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
After being recommended Dr z by helpful fellow jaw surgery forum guy I can't find costs anywhere. Obviously they differ depending on complexity but can anyone tell me how much usually two jaw surgery costs? And also how much if just one jaw is done?
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: Bowie on June 06, 2017, 11:47:12 AM
Dr Z responded to this question himself and the price for a chin wing is about $6,500.

That's a very fair price for that procedure in Germany in my opinion.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: boyo on June 06, 2017, 11:54:35 AM
Dr Z responded to this question himself and the price for a chin wing is about $6,500.
No, it's €8000 for standard CW and €10 000 for CW with chin expansion
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: UnderMunch on June 07, 2017, 05:19:34 AM
No, it's €8000 for standard CW and €10 000 for CW with chin expansion

What is the difference between a standard chin wing and a chin wing with "chin expansion"?
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: ppsk on June 07, 2017, 06:57:26 AM
What is the difference between a standard chin wing and a chin wing with "chin expansion"?

exactly what it sounds like

he widens the chin at the same time.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: UnderMunch on June 07, 2017, 09:07:24 AM
exactly what it sounds like

he widens the chin at the same time.

Sure, I got that part. But how is it done, he just splits it in the middle, vertically, and screws something onto it to stay in place?

Are the results significant enough, is it worth it?
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: ppsk on June 08, 2017, 02:43:36 AM
Sure, I got that part. But how is it done, he just splits it in the middle, vertically, and screws something onto it to stay in place?

Are the results significant enough, is it worth it?

no idea on the results

the technique I think, is splitting the chin centrally and inserting a bone graft from your hip inbetween. Considering the position of the major nerve.... I cant imagine it is a large osteotomy, probably only done on the "button" of the chin. But i have no actual idea.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: Milli_Meters on June 08, 2017, 02:44:57 AM
The T osteotomy I think.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: UnderMunch on June 08, 2017, 08:44:03 AM
I guess Zarrinbal's chin widening surgery is basically the reverse of this surgery, although I don't he has a way of augmenting(adding) anything to the sides of the mandible in the same way that the Korean surgeons cut off the sides to make the jaw more v-shaped? Or does the augmentation of the mandible happen with the chin wing on the sides?

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Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: Milli_Meters on June 08, 2017, 09:58:33 AM
I guess Zarrinbal's chin widening surgery is basically the reverse of this surgery, although I don't he has a way of augmenting(adding) anything to the sides of the mandible in the same way that the Korean surgeons cut off the sides to make the jaw more v-shaped? Or does the augmentation of the mandible happen with the chin wing on the sides?

Thanks for sharing that.

Side wing can add some lateral width for sure. How much? Accounts vary.
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: UnderMunch on June 09, 2017, 05:12:04 AM
Well, I'm definitely going to see him this year and see what he can do for me and what's actually up with my face(haven't been to a single bimax surgeon ever).

I'm also super curious to see the "secret" catalogue of b/as that he supposedly has but can't present online due to German laws on patient privacy.

Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: ppsk on June 09, 2017, 06:39:52 AM
Well, I'm definitely going to see him this year and see what he can do for me and what's actually up with my face(haven't been to a single bimax surgeon ever).

I'm also super curious to see the "secret" catalogue of b/as that he supposedly has but can't present online due to German laws on patient privacy.

its not supposedly, thats just how it is

Seriously, try to find B/As from any german surgeon online. I tried for 3 fuggin months  :-\
Title: Re: Does surgery have to be paid for in full up-front? Dr Z payment plans?
Post by: UnderMunch on June 09, 2017, 10:23:51 AM
its not supposedly, thats just how it is

Seriously, try to find B/As from any german surgeon online. I tried for 3 fuggin months  :-\

Do you reside outside of the EU? If that's the case then you have to seek out some of Z's patients and ask them individually.

So far I've only had luck with one but it was pretty amazing.. although I'm not exactly sure what he had done, apart from the chin wing, or if he had combined it with other surgeries with other plastic surgeons.