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Aesthetics / Can you give your opinion on my surgery plan?
« Last post by sienimies on April 12, 2024, 05:06:22 PM »
I'm undergoing jaw surgery next month for my mild underbite and I want to get the best aesthetic result out of it. My biggest fear is the current plan shortening my lower jaw too much and making my forehead look bigger since its already big.

There is still some room for change in the plan so I wanted to ask your opinion on it and then I can bring it up with my surgeon. I'm thinking that maybe there should be more advancement.

Video of the plan: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7TD81H3EIis

Pictures of my face: https://imgur.com/a/opeZrtW

X-rays: https://imgur.com/a/BHiY4XE

Thanks in advance!
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Aesthetics / Re: Too much jaw and chin bone removed what are my options?
« Last post by mindwitch on April 10, 2024, 12:35:43 AM »
I see one frontal scan, which isn't enough.

I don't have more. Sadly 😭
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 30, 2024, 02:41:00 PM »
Alright I got new information. Apparently Sinn called the procedure: "zygomatic bone advancement" he developed it in conjunction with some surgeon in Australia. I think he might be the only one that does it in the US. The surgeon from Australia he developed it with, if I had to guess would be Heggie since he also has written and made papers on it.
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Functional Surgery Questions / Can someone help me calculate the Occlusal Plane
« Last post by Freddie54 on March 29, 2024, 01:52:05 PM »
I either get 14 degrees going from the last molars or 20.
The overlapped X-rays make it hard to see the occlusal plane.
https://imgchest.com/p/na7krvraky8
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 28, 2024, 01:40:32 PM »
That makes sense but remember it's a 2 part operation that also requires lefort 1 to not advance the jaw is what I understood. Varbrah was right when he mentioned Modified lefort 3 isn't exactly the right name for it I guess, but now a days there isn't much distinction.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on March 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AM »
What surprised me a TON is how both Earl and him refere to it as "milder than DJS" WHAT?

It's possible it requires less cutting of soft tissue, blood vessels, etc. That's going to determine swelling for the most part. I think the mouth has the most of any area of the body (I think I read this?), and DJS is more in that area, so maybe with the cuts higher up those decrease a bit. Just speculation, but that would be my guess.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 28, 2024, 10:09:15 AM »
Thank you for the link GJ. Yeah I read that one some weeks/days ago in my research.
What surprised me a TON is how both Earl and him refere to it as "milder than DJS" WHAT? Also this thread was how I learned it was two separate surgeries. I thought they were both done at the same time in one go but apparently not. What absolutely CONFUSES me a ton is that they keep refering it as recovery being "milder than Djs" and basically that it was not a big deal recovery wise. The cuts seem to be two, infraorbital area and lefort 1 area, apparently done at different times. This is insane to me I'd think it all would be on the same go. Today I'm contacting Sinn's team to see if he thought this to someone ever. I will be careful how I talk about it but I must try.

Thank you for messaging him and linking the thread to him. I tried messaging him some days/weeks ago but he did not answer yet. Let's hope there is more luck this time around.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on March 28, 2024, 04:43:12 AM »
He's Varbrah's discussion of it: https://jawsurgeryforums.com/index.php/topic,8542.msg79109.html#msg79109

I reached out to him (maybe he's more likely to respond to an admin) and linked this thread. He was last active in January, so he might be around still.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by GJ on March 28, 2024, 04:40:42 AM »
Is the step off you mentioned the one in the picture I posted?

That's where, in my mind's eye, I pictured a step off being a risk. Definitely ask about shaving down the bone and/or grafting to soften that. I'd imagine the eye sockets appear more depressed after the procedure, too, since you're advancing everything around it, and any asymmetry will be exaggerated as you move things forward.

I know we all think this is an esoteric and risky procedure. I still think that, fwiw, but after reading Earl's emails, Sinn didn't feel that way. I don't know if that's because Sinn's confidence in his ability, his experience, etc, but that was his feeling about it. In rereading the emails, that stood out.
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Aesthetics / Re: Modified lefort 3 or other ways of cheekbone augmentation?
« Last post by BurnSoul on March 27, 2024, 08:15:16 PM »
Hahaha that makes sense GJ.

Thank you as usual. Is the step off you mentioned the one in the picture I posted?
Also the image is the only one that I could find that shows a modified lefort 3 but when tracing it's origin it goes into looksmax incel forums. That is a bit worrying.

I keep looking. Obwegeser seems like the perfect person for this. It's a shame he doesn't seem to want to answer anymore. Most people when they hear ML3 think advancing everything from eye socket down. When in reality you can just advance malar area and not the jaws like Varbrah had.
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