For people wanting to use fat in the face: unfortunately, it gets resorbed

[ben from UK]

I read a post from someone advising using fat uder the eye. I tried it two times in other parts of the face, but it got broke down by the body. It is known in most cases, especially in moving areas near muscles, fat will get resorbed by the body.

[Lestat]

I read a post from someone advising using fat uder the eye. I tried it two times in other parts of the face, but it got broke down by the body. It is known in most cases, especially in moving areas near muscles, fat will get resorbed by the body.

Nonsense.

When performed using proper techniques of harvesting fat, treating the fat, and then injecting the fat, the fat that survives is permanent living fat. The techniques of Coleman, Lam, and Glasgold have been proven to stand the test of time.

Fat harvested from the body and transplanted into the face is essentially permanent. Not all of the fat cells will survive the procedure, however the ones that do survive are programmed to think they are still located in their previous location. When fat is taken from the abdomen or flanks, these cells are prone to resisting shrinkage, which means that will remain the case when transferred to the face. Unlike facial fat, which is susceptible  to depletion.

[ben from UK]

Nonsense.

When performed using proper techniques of harvesting fat, treating the fat, and then injecting the fat, the fat that survives is permanent living fat. The techniques of Coleman, Lam, and Glasgold have been proven to stand the test of time.

Fat harvested from the body and transplanted into the face is essentially permanent. Not all of the fat cells will survive the procedure, however the ones that do survive are programmed to think they are still located in their previous location. When fat is taken from the abdomen or flanks, these cells are prone to resisting shrinkage, which means that will remain the case when transferred to the face. Unlike facial fat, which is susceptible  to depletion.

I don't know about the techniques. Only talking about own experience. My fat was taken from abdomen and was absorbed. You can read alot about fat being absorbed, the surgeons i talked to also said this can happen. Maybe it's about the techniques used and it depends on the person.

[Lazlo]

I don't know about the techniques. Only talking about own experience. My fat was taken from abdomen and was absorbed. You can read alot about fat being absorbed, the surgeons i talked to also said this can happen. Maybe it's about the techniques used and it depends on the person.

diid any fat stay? do you know how they harvested/processed the fat? I have heard from Dr. Sinn that only vascularized fat will stay and the fat harvested from stomach and other areas is not vascularized. but where the f**k do you get vascularized fat from?

[ben from UK]

diid any fat stay? do you know how they harvested/processed the fat? I have heard from Dr. Sinn that only vascularized fat will stay and the fat harvested from stomach and other areas is not vascularized. but where the f**k do you get vascularized fat from?

From my lower abdomen. It's widely known chances are high fat doesn't stay. Not enough blood supply to keep it alive. Most surgeons agree on that. It dissappeared within a week in my case. Lots of things get broken down if the area doesn't accept them as it's own. Cartillage grafts get absorbed as well, unless harvested from the nose to build the nose with it, because it is from the nose itself. So for example scraping off some cartillage from the sides of the middle part of the nose to build the bridge after a botched nose job, is perfectly fine and will last a long time if not forever. Taking cartillage from the ear to build up the nose bridge will lead to complete absorption within a couple of weeks. Certain body areas don't want elements from other parts. The body is effective at destroying everything it considers unnecessary.

Taking bone from the skull instead of the hip, for bonegrafts, probably will lead to less absorption chance when it comes to chinwing for example. It is part of the skull, so not foreign. But i don't even know if it's possible to do.

[jusken]

diid any fat stay? do you know how they harvested/processed the fat? I have heard from Dr. Sinn that only vascularized fat will stay and the fat harvested from stomach and other areas is not vascularized. but where the f**k do you get vascularized fat from?

In some procedures they can do what's called a 'fat flap' I think?  Or basically transferring a section of fat to a nearby location.  I think the main use for this would be in a mastectomy to even it out more and provide better survival for a graft...  anyway, you wouldn't want to do this on your face haha.

From what I've read fat transfer procedures have to be done multiple times generally to get acceptable results.  The chances of lumpiness is just too high for the face when you're talking about such unpredictability.  Just wait for more advances in this field... my recommendation is to stay away for facial stuff.  The area is too fragile to small imperfections looking bad.  Don't get sold on it!

[ben from UK]

Fillers are okay for small corrections. But they last max 6 months. Some of them last a year. Permanet fillers = too dangerous.

[Lazlo]

yeah might as well just keep getting fillers. Its pricey but at least it will stay and is accurate.

Yes, Dr. Sinn told me that only vascularized fat will stay. So when they build up the face of accident victims and such they have to get that fat from the face itself and i think they transfer it in like a section at a time. They wouldn't want to centrifuge that otherwise it would destroy the veins in the fat carrying it blood.

[april]

In some procedures they can do what's called a 'fat flap' I think?  Or basically transferring a section of fat to a nearby location.  I think the main use for this would be in a mastectomy to even it out more and provide better survival for a graft...  anyway, you wouldn't want to do this on your face haha.

While looking up a surgeon last night, I came across an article where they used the buccal fat pad as a flap to fill out the upper lip after lefort on a class 3. it's highly vascularized.

https://maaxilo.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2013.-Pedicled-fat-pad-flap-for-upper-lip-augmentation-1.pdf

[Lazlo]

While looking up a surgeon last night, I came across an article where they used the buccal fat pad as a flap to fill out the upper lip after lefort on a class 3. it's highly vascularized.

https://maaxilo.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/2013.-Pedicled-fat-pad-flap-for-upper-lip-augmentation-1.pdf

Yeah that's the problem. What do you do when you've had your buccal fat pad removed? Worst mistake of my life.

[Lestat]

Yeah that's the problem. What do you do when you've had your buccal fat pad removed? Worst mistake of my life.

As you know you can put fat back to the buccal space.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28538560/