premolars extractions

[sweptaway91]

here's how my bite looks  like (my molars are already very crowded). two orthos say that I need premolars extractions (upper and lower). does it make sense?

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[Vic]

It looks like your teeth are protruding, so yes it makes sense as they need the space to move your teeth back and straight

[Lazlo]

I would not have premolars taken out under ANY cirumstances. Ask the ortho if he can either expand the jaw OR go see a Damon braces doctor and ask how thy will straighten teeth. Brother, you're in for a WORLD of agony and pain if you get your premolars extracted, they're there for a reason.

[yxcvb]

I think you should watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g2xKDwsmdg

[Lazlo]

where was this goddamn video when i went for ortho treatment. well this site was just beginning then. f**king hell. at least no on else who reads this will have this brutal procedure done to them. I only hope that jaw surgery and bringing my jaws and cheekbones forward will rectify the deformation I have gone through. And turst me fellas my lips etc. are f**ked now, all sunken inn like an old man.

[Vic]

where was this goddamn video when i went for ortho treatment. well this site was just beginning then. f**king hell. at least no on else who reads this will have this brutal procedure done to them. I only hope that jaw surgery and bringing my jaws and cheekbones forward will rectify the deformation I have gone through. And turst me fellas my lips etc. are f**ked now, all sunken inn like an old man.

What can you do to go back to normal after having Pre-molars out?

[Vic]

I would like to know how they counteract Bi-max protrusion without taking teeth out

[needadvancement]

I would like to know how they counteract Bi-max protrusion without taking teeth out

That's what I will be getting next year. I got crowding on the mandible incisors and some bimax. Luckily my teeth are going inward like a cross bite so my orthodontist thinks he can fix it without extractions. That was a big relief for me to hear that.

[sweptaway91]

my lower arch looks like this... upper kinda similar but teeth more protruded. is there any hope to do sth without extractions?

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[Alue]

How old are you sweptaway91?  It's best to avoid premolar extractions if at all possible. I don't think they should ever be done in people before they are finished growing.   Even if you are finished growing, I would avoid it if possible. 

[PloskoPlus]

I am no expert but the arch does not look that crowded.

[Lazlo]

my lower arch looks like this... upper kinda similar but teeth more protruded. is there any hope to do sth without extractions?

No way. No way. Stop asking. Do what you want. You will regret it more than anything in your f**king life. Just find a good surgeon, if your wisdom teeth are out you're ready for surgery. The extractions will create so much excess space, even when the teeth are brought together your face will melt and your tongue will be compressed in your mouth. Now stop asking!

[needadvancement]

my lower arch looks like this... upper kinda similar but teeth more protruded. is there any hope to do sth without extractions?

Palate expander in the middle? The whole front of the teeth look good though.

[sean89]

You need your upper jaw shortened. You also need your upper jaw widened so that there is room for your teeth to come backwards.

[Balanced]

A lateral x-ray might help to see what is back or forward and to see what your other options might be.