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Lestat

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Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« on: June 18, 2017, 06:00:40 AM »
Unfortunately implants will erode your bone over time.

I think fat transfer is the better option. (See b&a picture attached).

What do you guys think?

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2017, 06:11:54 AM »
Great pictures.
I'm not an expert, but my experience is that fat does not stay.
It's a long strange story... But a doctor drilled my upper nose very narrow last summer.
Then he replaces the structure he took out with fat.
The fat is gone now and nose feels like skin and bones and much weaker than before.

But I guess there are different areas where the fat can stay better.

How long after are these pictures taken at?
Here is what Dr Timothy J Marten MD of marten clinic of plastic surgery did to me and something more:
https://imgur.com/a/JdEFR

https://timothyjmartenplasticsurgeonbadexperience.wordpress.com/blog/

https://bad-experience-timothy-marten-md.tumblr.com/

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2017, 06:28:42 AM »
Maybe because your fat grafts didn't "survive".

The survival of the fat will depend upon surgeons skills and will be the result of how the fat was harvested, how it was purified, and how and where it was injected.
When done successfully, the injected fat grows a new blood supply and begins to receive the nourishment it needs to survive from your body. When this happens, results can and often are permanent. However there can be a percentage of fat that does not take and this is why touch-ups are sometimes necessary.

The after photos were taken 18 months post op.

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2017, 06:30:30 AM »
Looks very good.
Good to hear that there are such good results.
Here is what Dr Timothy J Marten MD of marten clinic of plastic surgery did to me and something more:
https://imgur.com/a/JdEFR

https://timothyjmartenplasticsurgeonbadexperience.wordpress.com/blog/

https://bad-experience-timothy-marten-md.tumblr.com/

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2017, 06:36:58 AM »
Looks very good.
Good to hear that there are such good results.

It was done by Coleman, the number one expert when it comes to fat transfers.

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2017, 07:07:20 AM »
He has a mmmm "mixed" reputation online.


Saw this result earlier and was impressed as well.

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2017, 07:15:13 AM »
He has a mmmm "mixed" reputation online.

Yes that's true but Coleman is the inventor and pioneer of modern fat grafting!

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2017, 07:18:35 AM »
Yes that is established. I saw this result a while ago and was very impressed. I want to meet him actually.

And while I take online reviews etc with a grain of salt , I did go  :-X after researching . I am trying to find some of his patients who had under eye work done.

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2017, 07:24:24 AM »
And while I take online reviews etc with a grain of salt , I did go  :-X after researching . I am trying to find some of his patients who had under eye work done.

Earl mentioned in one of his recent posts, that blindness is a real risk. I dont know what to think about this.
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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2017, 08:11:24 AM »
Unfortunately implants will erode your bone over time.

I think fat transfer is the better option. (See b&a picture attached).

What do you guys think?

The photos are deceptive.   My guess is they are deliberately deceptive.

The lighting has changed.   

That said, fat grafting in the hands of someone with a lot of experience doing facial fat grafting does work.   Some results can be astonishing -- and permanent.   If done right,  60 to 75% of the original fat will survive.   

So the trick is to slightly "over inject" on the first pass.  Wait for the shrinkage.   Then consider a 2nd pass after maybe 8 to 16 months.

Oh... and this is one of those areas of surgery where (for lack of a more precise word) the "artistic" ability of the surgeon.   

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2017, 10:39:52 AM »
I have been in a room full of women that had fat transferred into their cheeks, think Twilight Zone "The Eye of the Beholder"....
I like that this surgeon was ultra conservative in the amount of fat he placed there but still, fat is a poor medium to substitute bone structure.

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2017, 01:01:08 PM »
I think the results look good.

But, I really hate that the lighting is almost never the same in before and afters. Lighting and angles change images so freaking much.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2017, 01:19:46 PM by whatdo »

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2017, 03:47:39 PM »
looks great what's his website:


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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 06:54:12 AM »
Infraorbital rim implants are still superior, more authentic and probably cheaper too

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Re: Fat transfer instead of orbital rim implants?
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2017, 03:18:57 PM »
I've had fat multiple times and it doesn't really last.  Try temporary fillers.