Correct. Hatred is a bad personality trait.
Being "soft and quit" isn't good or bad on its own. Being nice is good, but nice people don't lash out at women/society on forums and then act differently in private. I never said all incels are terrible. At least I don't think I did. But the ones who post on those forums lashing out at society for their plight have terrible personalities. That is holding them back more than looks.
Hatred is not a personality trait, it's an emotion. You aren't born with hate, you become hateful, whether it's due to the environment, upbringing or because of mental problems, or a combination of that.
But the ones who post on those forums lashing out at society for their plight have terrible personalities. That is holding them back more than looks.
I don't agree with that. If they act normal in real life, how could it hold them back. If there's something holding them back, it's their level of anxiety and insecurity, due to their perceived looks or due to objectively bad looks. You can act like a prick in real life, there's always someone that will like you. But if you're anxious and insecure, and you don't come out of your own house, it will be difficult. Also, even pricks have good traits. There's no such thing as a bad of good person. And person A can like you, person B can hate you. Which one is right?
If I'm talking about my personal situation: before i fcked up my looks with a couple of procedures, people liked me and I had many friends. After soms bad procedures, people acted mean and bad towards me (can't blame them). I can tell you for sure that my personality hasn't changed. Now, if I wasn't so focussed on looks, I wouldn't give a damn about other people's reactions.
The evil is not within incels or another particular group, the evil is within human nature in general. Anyway, I'm not trying to have a debate here about incels or whatever.
I just think there's soms level of bdd or whatever you may call it in someone that tries to change his or her looks, whether it's an incel or not. Thing is, many procedures don't give good results. I think it would be more productive if time and energy is focused on techniques, skills, materials etc. Good results may not take away psychological damage, someone's past or all anxiety, but it can improve someone's quality of life, making him of her more accepted, improve his or her sexlife and therefore indirectly take away part of insecurity, hatred or anxiety. But you always have to look at the individual case. Some people only need an improvement in looks, others only therapy and others both.