I've seen his photos before. But yes, since he first put up, the IMGUR link doesn't show them anymore. He's not exaggerating. I can confirm that. He has a lot of bone loss from tooth extractions. Tooth extractions, I think, from infections. On top of that, he has a PAIN CONDITION and pain, itself generates more stress and more aging. It's unclear what his pain condition is. Initially, when he first posted, the only thing I could think of was Trigeminal Neuralgia. But I think he may have said that was ruled out. With a lot of infected teeth and extractions, it also could be periodontal disease. Of course, I DON'T KNOW. I'm just stating the possibilities I would be familiar with as to 'mysterious pain condition' (to face) and/or need for multiple extractions, the former being TGN and the latter being periodontal disease when many prior infections were at play for the tooth loss. But of course, there could be other conditions at play where a legit diagnosis would be needed (as opposed to my limited familiarity with 2 possible culprits).
If he had either TGN or periodontal issues, I think, a surgeon would be reluctant to do surgery as more pain in excess of normal post op pain could occur or lingering periodontal issues risk infection from a surgery to the jaws. Hence, I would encourage him to keep pursuing a DIAGNOSIS as to the mysterious pain problem and the bone atrophy problem because knowing what is going on would be an important consideration for any surgeon entertaining the possibility of surgery.
Thank you Kavan .
I appreciate your honesty - cause i'm fed up with doctors bulls**t - or psycologist... or out surroding (family etc.) that gives us the bulls**t of - "yes - you look fine.. you look the same ) (by the way even my family and friends don't sell me this BS - they admit there is a real change. they can't even fake-comfort me that "no.. its not THAT bad" ...
I wanted to reply to GJ that i don't think i exarate , and i know coming from me - would not be a "trustblae" source since i testify on myself - so thanks for the reasurance from aside . Yes - i delted the pictures since of course i have EXTREME issues with showing my pictures , more yet -over the net.. it was totally hard for me to upload them in the first place - but i really appreciate your both opninios so i wanted to give and to respect you with all the info(pictures) so i can get your view that i toally appreciate.
I must tell you - i think it's a combination of things.
Tn - was rulled out this week by a neurosugeon - but again - he could be wrong - in a small precent. i've seen so many cases over the years that don't "act" like the medical books. Anyway - it is some kind of pain under the umbrella of "facial pains'" . i must tell you that whiel the pain is totally extrutationg (i just took my daily morphin pill) - the emotional distress from my look is bad the same and maybe even more.
What happened is this :
in 2008 i got hit by someone on the jaw - it was a hard hit - but i didn't quite remember it - and did'nt have pain from it
In 2010 - 2 years later - i went to a simple dental filling - which a day after EXTREME pain in the tooth that was treated . extreme .
over the years with the pain i've extractyed 5 teeth - but i can CONFIRM you for a fact that the change in my jaw was WAYY before extractions were done.
In the 6 first monthes of the pain my jaw angle changed. totally . i told my best friend "be honest -don't you see the angle of my jaw became croocked - no nice to the eye" he told me - i don't want to offend you - but yes- something happened.
of course extracting teeth over the years + pain that made me chew only on one side etc.. made my face more atrophic - and it's a vicious circle - but this are side reasons fot the change - change was quite immediatly in the first 6 monthes .
By the way over the years i got pain on the other side - that was also after many scan (many) showed no reason - and i was told it's a "nerve" issue- they were wrong - they failed to see a severe infection i had in sinus because of fistula in my jaw . this year - again - after many doctors failed to see it - i did a "bone scan" you can clearly see there - one side of my face is BLACK meaning infection or inflamation.
I know i'm far of a candadiate of auesthetic surgery in my condition - but i don't have a life - not only because of the pain - because i lost all spark of life - i used to get looks, attention when i got into the room. now no one in the street even look at me - they immediatly look the other way like i don't exist. i don't care about them - i want "ME" to like what i see in the mirror .
I must say Kavan and GJ you both have extreme persice view and kavan - i would have pay for you to sit with my jaw surgeon with drafs and show him exactly what needs to be done in my face in order to at least make me half pleasant as I was. i think it's jaw... cheeks.. lip that got sunken... chin that recceded like 50%... so much...(and yes - hair balding which is another issue but also of course effect look) .
GJ - i get it that my case might look as BDD - I totally get it - and in some ways it is - if i can'r stand looking at mirror - if i have no joy waking up to look at my self - if i feel that no one can comfort me with my looks - yes it's has BDD is it - BUT - what is the person is not imaginging it - and his face really got really bad and really ugly - objectivly ?
This would be a sin to go on the pshcologic path - when everyone can SEE the truth.
That's it . i wish i could get a wiser advice for me - but i know it's not much possible (i'm sure out there there is a doctor that will take one look at me and see it all . BTW i have consulation via skype with dR defranck he totally saw what was visibly wrong with me - he said i have enlonged jaw bone on one side. .and in order to return in to normal he has to rotate the jaw . But he didnt give an explanation to pain or what happened - he just noticed the change in face and what looks bad now .
Anyway - thanks for letting me share - and for the support and advises.
