I'm totally confused / stressed / anxious / depressed / dont know what to do

[Rico]

Dr Z and many others told me that implants in my case will be not good option. Do not recommend. I asked about it...and also there is even more risk that small nerves will be damaged.
fillers, I dont want thery are not permament...I want to feel my hard bone not something soft like fat

as you see i'm very bad case

100% wrong, but you are not listening

I listen all the time. Since I'm here [only one week] I made one more consultation and 2 others are in progress... waiting for first response

I wish it was me... look at this. only one good opion perhap it is MM

http://lookyourbestuk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=39497

[Modigliani]

I would heed the advice of the others and cancel your surgery payment, the last thing you need is to risk your money if they get weird about refunding. You shouldn't be having this many doubts about your surgeon at this late stage - your instinct is trying to tell you something, listen to it.

It's interesting that he now wants all the money upfront - it used to be half before surgery and half after, wonder what could have prompted such a change?

Forgive me for saying this but you don't sound mentally ready to have surgery with anyone at the moment. Keep on researching and thinking and only when you feel secure in your decision should you hand over money.

[falcao]

It's interesting that he now wants all the money upfront - it used to be half before surgery and half after, wonder what could have prompted such a change?

LOL! Good point

[Rico]

interesting. What about other clinics ?  most of them wants half before ?

But not he....the clinic. His own clinic is in another city - in Sint Marteen-Latem - here I had frist consultation. In Brussels he operate in university hospital. I dont know how much he is responsible when it comes to financial of the max fac department

[Modigliani]

12 months ago at the Brussels hospital they wanted only half before, then half after. I can't help but wonder if it's been changed due to his unhappy patients refusing to pay when they realise they've been botched. Maybe it's just a change in hospital policy, who knows 

I didn't know he still had his Bruges clinic, thought he was full time at UZ Brussel?

[Rico]

no. he is at least 2 days a week at his own clinic.  Its not far away ...only about 100km from Brussels

half before , half later..that should be
also as I've read 1-2 years ago prices were at least 2 times lower..WTF

heh I wrote message to MM as you saw...and my finger is on the button my finger is on the button  "send".
hehe

[Gregor Samsa]

12 months ago at the Brussels hospital they wanted only half before, then half after. I can't help but wonder if it's been changed due to his unhappy patients refusing to pay when they realise they've been botched. Maybe it's just a change in hospital policy, who knows  ;

You mean half before, half after and then some more just because their cost estimate wasn't accurate? I think I'd rather pay a full amount up front because at least then I'll know how much the damn thing will cost.


xdon82, have you consulted with any oculoplastic surgeons? This kind of stuff is right up their alley unless I've misunderstood your problem.

[Rico]

haha no no no   in my case 8500 Euros, However I might be charged more in the case when I have to stay more days in hospital, eventully additional procedures etc I had to sign that declaration

oculoplastic ?  no I think its not right specialisation.. look at my pictures on this thread.. whole malar bone has to be moved

[Gregor Samsa]

I looked at realself.com and there were always a bunch of oculoplastic surgeons that gave advice in cases that involved malar or zygomatic fractures.

[Rico]

I will take a look... however I think oculoplastic is needed when there is problem with the eye after trauma.. don't know

[Rico]

I wrote to MM:

Dear Professor.


I checked confirmation and it seems put wrong IBAN code and got error on my bank reports I have to make transfer again
No problem because I have to pay till tuesday/wednesday - just 2 weeks before surgery.


But I still have a little doubt.  I would like to be very concrete. Please read to the end.
On first consultation I told You that I will have bad reaction to any PERSISTENT numbness.
On approach you described me, small zygomatic nerves will be destroyed...and now I reliased we had a little missunderstanding. You told, that most people do not feel any distibrbuances post-op.
I realised too late, that probably they have distirbuances but they do not bother about this, becasue they used to want to change their face for a long time...
Perhaps you can send request to some of your patient about this. If they just do not bother or really do not feel any loss /changes  of/in feeling. Unfortunately I think, its first option.
i'm not that case and loss of feeling on the side of the cheek will make discomfort me.


I have a little deal for You Professor. I know You dont like situation like this, so please do not drop my case, becasue I still want to have surgery...


I felt I would be safe in your hands and your are very skilled surgeon


For sure I would like to have decompression surgery especially when you have experience with that. Perhaps it will help and its not risky
When it comes to osteotomy I will make up my mind during our last constulation. I think we should have 3 consultations not only 2. But now its too late
Perhaps rebooking surgery ? its still almost 3 weeks before. Perhaps it will be a chance for other patient who needs to be operated faster.
Maybe You can give me a little consultation via Skype if You use it. I can pay for it.


I just not feel very good about possibility of damaging the nerves. Also do not feel good, becasue I know you will get a little angry at me.
Damaging for 100% during procedure is not the same like low risk of damage (when surgeon try to not damage)


Perhaps You can find another safe approach to save these nerves? Its important for me. Maybe i'm a good candidate to develope a little new method.
if not then please remake plan of the surgery.
Please tell receptionists (or other worker) to make new cost estimation for decompression only just in case.


But I don't know what to do. To pay whole amount of money or wait a while for a recalculation and eventually I will pay more using credit card in hospital just before surgery
I'm afraid of that If I send more then needed, I wil be charged additional strange fee and I wont get  back enough of money. Please be understanding


Can you help me. Situation is stressful for me. What should I do ?
If you think that in fact we had a little missunderstanding about one or two issies and its too little time then please make a rebook possible [at least for decompression surgery]
at the same time please think about any new approach for my case to minimalize the risk of numbness
BUT PLEASE DO NOT DROP MY CASE


and I got this from him - dont know what to think ?
Dear Sir,
It just does not work your way.
All is discussed 10 times more than with other cases. Nothing changes with more talking.
My consultation lists are booked for 6 months.
If you do not prepay, than the surgery is cancelled for always. I have the right to choose the patients i like to operate. Your mails give me great distress. I hate living up to an operation with paranoia. There is enough other patients who trust me.
So no more emails please. You drive me crazy, which is not good for you!

[Modigliani]

He's dropped you, count yourself lucky 

No, just read it again - if you prepay he will still deign to operate on you but don't dare ask him anymore questions

[Rico]

no y .... he is waiting still for prepay... but now its strange
i cant even take more information from him..nothing
i have last consultation just a day before surgery

i asked about another approach to save nerves... and he even didn't answer anything
so on a consultation a day before he will tell me that there is no other option
and then I will cancel surgery..and I even dont know how much money I will get back
or If i decide to do only decompression [simple procedure] I still do not know about costs.. probably they  will take more money than should be taken

this is unfair. He left me with anxious feeling

Do you think many surgeons act in this way ?

[Modigliani]

Trust your instincts FFS!

[geijutsu]

haha no no no   in my case 8500 Euros, However I might be charged more in the case when I have to stay more days in hospital, eventully additional procedures etc I had to sign that declaration

oculoplastic ?  no I think its not right specialisation.. look at my pictures on this thread.. whole malar bone has to be moved

Oculoplastic surgeons are specialized in the eyelids, orbits, and the midface. So I think they can help you.

To be honest, I'm sill having a hard time knowing exactly what your problem is in the first place, as I haven't been following it before. Is it some sort of a orbital/malar fracture, is there more to the story?