Well that first man is deformed level jaw structure, so yeah if you're at a level of actual like freak looking ugliness that's not gonna help, but the average class II or class III doesn't look that bad. There are f**king dozens of people posting their pics every day on this site being like "what's wrong with my jaw" obsessing that they can't get chicks cause of how they look and it's BS. Let me tell you something I'm average looking right now, have a mouth full of braces, and I'm actually getting pretty fat. I get laid by different HOT twenty year olds on a weekly basis. And I think i'm actually kind of ugly. I'm actually somewhat poor for my age and don't have a job. No car. An average apt. but in the real world I'm kinda confident and funny as hell and am into and have expertise in a lot of interesting things which I won't reveal here. What you've fallen for is the evolutionary psychology BS explanations which are full of holes you dips**t. Evolutionary psychology explanations are basically pseudo-science. Looks matter for women yes, BIGTIME. But not for men. For men it's all about confidence which can be translated through state and attitude and inner strength. That second pic where the guy has a better jawline. NO HE WILL NOT HAVE A BETTER SEX LIFE IF HIS PERSONALITY IS MEEK AND LOSERISH AND INSECURE. I"VE SEEN GUYS TEN TIMES HOTTER THAN HIM BLOW IT WITH EVERY GIRL THEY MEET. Anyway, i don't want to get into this s**t here anymore so I won't respond. I know this is all true, so I don't need to convince you. Was just trying to give some real enlightenment to the board. But of course I knew f**ktards like you are so stubborn cause you love your pain and are so attached to the beliefs that make you isolated and blow it with girls. Dude, it's safer and easier for you to believe yeah it's cause of your looks you can't get hot girls. Cause otherwise it would actually be your personality which and you'd have to take chances and be other there in th world. So whatever stay safe in your flawed and idiotically beta beliefs you hardcase newbie.