Extraction orthodontics victim. Please read.

[Ortho Scam]

Hello all. I'm 20 years old male. When I was 13 (and didn't know any better) I had braces and 4 teeth extractions. In my opinion, this has set my whole profile off as I believe the maxilla got recessed from the braces pulling inwards. I have no way to prove this as I don't have the previous x-rays. However, I can provide a current one, taken recently.

https://i.gyazo.com/b706f16daa2804c8a90105e4fccf37f6.png

As you can see here, the maxilla isn't prominent. Not only it isn't but it also looks sub-optimal to me. Also, notice another thing. See how my teeth point downwards? Here's a better real life example of this:

https://i.gyazo.com/98eb2174ddaca9de5f1d0f882a71f1ee.png

It also looks to me that after the ortho "treatment" I have developed a WEAKER midface and also these "eyebags" called a negative orbital vector which supposedly is a sign of a maxillary deficiency. (The one below isn't my face, I found it on google, mine is less severe but similar)




Now, what I want to ask is, how I would I go fixing this mess? The best solution to me would probably be to fix the deep bite by possibly intruding the frontal teeth into my maxxila and also try to re-open the 4 spaces of the teeth that were extracted, which means that my upper and lower jaw must also stretch to be able to have those spaces and then put implants in the place of where my perfectly healthy teeth should be. My lower teeth seem to apply pressure on my upper teeth which means that the lower jaw doesn't sit in its correct position because of my wrong bite and at the end of the day I'm forced to hang it low in order to stop my upper teeth from hurting.

I don't know, this whole situation seems like a mess to me. I don't know how I could go fix my profile the way it was before, I mean my profile was never prominent lara croft tier but it was respectable and non-sickly looking.

My profile when I was 11:

https://i.gyazo.com/4fc0b59058ddb2d4a59d2cfd706334d5.png


My profile when I was 12.5:

https://i.gyazo.com/bda0da90b0a89b38aaaef156766cfa2f.jpg

My profile at 17.5:

https://i.gyazo.com/7d708e3f7fed1d1b05f7b71fb3ac855b.jpg

I have circled and underlined the areas with red regarding the negative orbital vector and also the areas where I think some deficiency took place after. Please tell me your thoughts and what way would be the best approach to handle this situation. Can I re-open 4 gaps and stretch my lower and upper jaw non surgically in order to get bicuspid implants? Can I fix this deep bite of the frontal teeth that is so annoying on my frontal lower teeth?

Thank you.

[SGseeker]

I also had 4 extractions at 13/14 before puberty. I believe it led to a weak profile as well based on my research and analysis of my face before braces and after. Just got a sliding genioplasty and it has changed a lot for me. I went with Dr. Gunson. I strongly suggest you at least consult with him to get an idea of what you need and what he thinks. Based on your budget go from there.

[Ortho Scam]

I also had 4 extractions at 13/14 before puberty. I believe it led to a weak profile as well based on my research and analysis of my face before braces and after. Just got a sliding genioplasty and it has changed a lot for me. I went with Dr. Gunson. I strongly suggest you at least consult with him to get an idea of what you need and what he thinks. Based on your budget go from there.

Thing is, I don't think the problem is my lower jaw. It may look like that because the upper teeth hold my bite further back of what it actually should be. When I close my teeth, I can feel the lower teeth press on the upper front teeth, like they want to sit more forward. This leads me hanging my lower jaw open even with my mouth closed.

What I would like I do is bring the maxilla to where it was and possible re-open the gaps of extractions. I also want to fix my bite so my teeth can finally align in order. I don't know if these things are possible at my age.

I dont live in the US btw

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