Shortening midface....AH MAYBE ONE DAY....

[Moon Pix 1985]

While we are on the subject of midface length - has anybody ever actually heard what the ideal midface length is. Is there a mm length that that is considered to be the best or are there actually demarcations (anything over xxmm is a long midface etc).

[CK]

While we are on the subject of midface length - has anybody ever actually heard what the ideal midface length is. Is there a mm length that that is considered to be the best or are there actually demarcations (anything over xxmm is a long midface etc).

there is no *ideal* length because the most important variable is how the midface - or any trait - syncs with the rest of the face. just like a square jaw isn't always ideal.

gere is such a great example but his midface is enormous but it works for him. when talking about elongated midfaces it's a more specific reference to abnormally long midfaces most likely growth-related. a naturally long midface can look fine

[Moon Pix 1985]

drugs ruined her appearance.

she was super hot before all the booze and drugs

Here here. Amy was gorgeous before all of the drugs long midface or no long midface. Anyway isnt she jewish? Im sure that long midfaces come with the territory with jewish genes.

[Lazlo]

let's worship richard gere's beauty some more



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[CK]

let's worship richard gere's beauty some more

can you imagine if he had experienced even a few mm of vertical growth? it would ruin everything

[Lazlo]

can you imagine if he had experienced even a few mm of vertical growth? it would ruin everything

yeah it's true. i guess that's why beauty is so incredibly rare. i mean there's the few mm as you say, but also everything else, the short philtrum, the perfectly spaced, hooded eyes. great skin tone and incredible hair, ridiculously full cheekbones and under eye area. i mean he looks better than most male models even. he even has quite strong nose, but the overall gestalt just works. i don't think any of us can realistically hope to attain richard gere level beauty regardless of what surgery is out there.

[CK]

yeah it's true. i guess that's why beauty is so incredibly rare. i mean there's the few mm as you say, but also everything else, the short philtrum, the perfectly spaced, hooded eyes. great skin tone and incredible hair, ridiculously full cheekbones and under eye area. i mean he looks better than most male models even. he even has quite strong nose, but the overall gestalt just works. i don't think any of us can realistically hope to attain richard gere level beauty regardless of what surgery is out there.

any kind of vertical growth, especially with the upper jaw, will undermine his other features - lengthen the philtrum definitely. the rest of his features might not synch as well and wouldnt appear as positive as they do now.

no surgery is a substitute for just natural genes

[Heavyweight]

for Lazlo

This is a huge improvement. I think he looks much more handsome and athletic with a shorter midface. I've noticed that long midfaces are rare among athletes, possibly because short midfaces go along with good genes.

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Kobe Bryant

[Modigliani]

let's worship richard gere's beauty some more

God, he was really something wasn't he, him and Cindy Crawford made such a hot couple.

[Modigliani]

Michael Phelps has a loooong midface and what looks like class III.

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[CK]

imo the longer someone's midface the more important their features factor into their overall aesthetic. someone with a relatively compact/normal midface can get away with poorer features and still be attractive.

[Lazlo]

interesting, he does look better in this morph. I think partly because you've made him more youthful by taking away the slightly herniated(sagging) cheek area.  but the difference isn't HUGE. he's attractive in both.

[Kristen]

Better before.... Girls opinion