Kavlan,
Okay, then I have a stupid question: if I had a lip lift in combination with the genioplasty osteotomy, , theoreticaiiy would it help reduce that eye to lip corner ratio that is creating some of the visual distortion? I still see myself as having a shorter lower third, but it could just be subtle combinations of several factors that I've yet to completely accept. For years now I've created a narrative for the other.
I think if I had a bigger overall head size it would be less obvious.
I also made an appointment with the doc you suggested, but he isn't available until mid November.
There is really no 'distortion'. People are just used to looking at male MODELS who's eyes are very 'long' (inner to outer canthus) and longer than the NORM and DUE to that type of 'off the charts' length that is LONGER than the NORM for the eye, their midface looks 'compact'. They have a type of ratio where the distance from outer PUPIL to outer PUPIL=the vertical to either the corners of the lips or the 'part' between the lips. It's DUE to the EYES. They also have BIG HEADS. They also have an S-N plane that is either horizontal or tipped forward where S is higher than the N point. (Sorry but you will just have to familiarize yourself with ceph land marks) which is what gives them the nice 'shadowing' above the eye. Upper orbit is the FRONTAL bone of cranium and it's the forward tipping of the cranium that gives the models the type of 'shadowing' to the upper eye.
Point I'm making here is that IF you are doing things to look more like a male model which is a common motivation I see with guys who start with pretty good bone structure already and then pursue a bunch of bone cuts, teeth work--what ever--it ISN'T going to happen. You and countless others pursuing things where on some level, perhaps subconcious or in the back of your mind, want to see the relationships/ratios a male model has, ISN'T going to happen. Models usually have relationships, especially with the eyes that CAN'T be reproduced via surgeries.
So, a lip lift, along with a corner lip lift with it (LLs lift the central part mostly) will make the labial ledge (distance from sub-nasa to top of upper vermilion border) which would be something to do IF one wanted:
a MORE upper tooth show
b a SHORTER labial ledge
But it's not going to kick up the same kind of ratio that makes a male model's midface look 'compact'IF that is your motivation for having it.