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Post bimax

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2019, 06:27:23 AM »
Most Caps players are actually pretty good looking, Tom Wilson is exceptional though.

Growing a beard isn’t necessarily an option for everyone. For example I CAN grow one but it looks pretty bad imo. My best look is 1-2mm of stubble.

Pre jaw surgery I actually looked best clean shaven but now stubble actually compliments my jaw and helps mask the upper lip a bit.

ben from UK

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2019, 10:01:03 AM »
How’s it going? Is the swelling coming down?

I think it's looking better day by day. Just have to wait till final swelling is gone.

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2019, 01:37:11 PM »
Good news, I hope you’re happy with it .

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2019, 01:42:16 PM »
Ha I think most guys here have thought about growing a beard. If I could grow a decent one i’d already have one. I actually applied rogaine to my beard area for over a year after reading a thread on a beard forum but I still didn’t get great results.

I think at this point I’d only consider injectibles. Be that fat grafting or some new substance I don’t know yet.

ben from UK

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2019, 03:15:22 PM »
One thing is for sure though: PEEK is absolutely the superior material from all materials. Forget about Medpor and silicone. All results I saw from PEEK were natural. I don't know precisely why this is, but maybe it's because the skin attaches better to PEEK and it's hard material unlike silicone, which is soft. PEEK replicates bone better than silicone. The soft tissue never really attaches to silicone, silicone doesn't blend well into the face. Also, because silicone is soft, screws get loose after a while and with ageing it will look bad. Silicone is really outdated and in 10 years, chances are nobody will use it anymore. It's not yet approved in the US, only for the skull.

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2019, 04:53:08 PM »
One thing is for sure though: PEEK is absolutely the superior material from all materials. Forget about Medpor and silicone. All results I saw from PEEK were natural. I don't know precisely why this is, but maybe it's because the skin attaches better to PEEK and it's hard material unlike silicone, which is soft. PEEK replicates bone better than silicone. The soft tissue never really attaches to silicone, silicone doesn't blend well into the face. Also, because silicone is soft, screws get loose after a while and with ageing it will look bad. Silicone is really outdated and in 10 years, chances are nobody will use it anymore. It's not yet approved in the US, only for the skull.
PEEK is done for cheekbones in the US.  Is it as hard to remove as Medpor?  What are the main advantages of PEEK over Medpor besides lower infection rate?

ben from UK

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2019, 09:14:14 AM »
Sorry, I shouldnt be so absolute in my statement. Some people with silicone, even on this site, were happy with their results.

I don't know if peek can be taken out easily. According to a post on this site, it can.

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2019, 08:39:31 PM »
Ben,

tl;dr - Why not just grow a beard?

I've been looking through NHL player mugshots.  It seems like athleticism is no guarantee of a handsome face.  Most players don't look like Tom Wilson (I don't understand why he's risking his face fighting so much).

In NHL, many players grow beards during playoffs.  The difference, at least to me, can be striking:





what the hell that hockey player is handsome as f**k with or without the beard.

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2019, 07:40:30 AM »
Looking at the first pic I don’t see how he could have grown such an epic beard in the 2nd pic. Did he get s hair transplant on his face  ;D

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2019, 12:57:24 AM »
How’s the swelling coming down Ben? Are you able to give more details on your surgery? Cost, surgeon etc?

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2019, 01:48:21 AM »
Looking at the first pic I don’t see how he could have grown such an epic beard in the 2nd pic. Did he get s hair transplant on his face  ;D
My guess is that his beard is not dense, but coarse. So it has to be a certain length to work. Mine is similar.

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2019, 03:07:35 AM »
How’s the swelling coming down Ben? Are you able to give more details on your surgery? Cost, surgeon etc?

I think it looks okay. I'm quite happy with the results tbh. It certainly looks much better than after the botched cw. Reactions from the environment are positive too, that's always a good sign as well.

I won't do invasive surgeries anymore (unless there's infection or something like that), maybe some touch ups with a bit of temporary filler here and there but no more than that.


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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2019, 02:30:03 PM »
Do you know if Medpor can be custom 3D modeled/fitted? Or are all medpor implants 'off the shelf'

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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2019, 02:48:47 PM »
Do you know if Medpor can be custom 3D modeled/fitted? Or are all medpor implants 'off the shelf'

It can be customized and also be shaved during surgery or after surgery if needed for revision. All implants can be custom made I think.

Implants can be tricky because it's about millimeters, sometimes 1 millimeter makes a difference. It's difficult to calculate the right amount of millimeters, especially because most surgeons don't use simulation with soft tissue on face. The best surgeons know it's about 1 or 1.5 millimeter horizontally or vertically, etc. If a surgeon says 'one or two millimeters more or less doesn't matter' you better watch out. Facial harmony is very important.

There is this notion when it comes to jaw angles, wrap around or chinimplant, that more is better, which is, in most cases, not true. Doing less than needed though, sometimes doesn't give significant improvement. I know that yamarshuk takes time to design the implant, but i don't know how good he is technically. The design is crucial. The surgeon is able to shave parts of the implant during surgery, but this is not always ideal, and even if he thinks it's better to do it, he doesn't know if the client wants that. It's a very difficult procedure when it comes to creating the right aestethics, especially if your face is already harmonious or when you don't have the angular phenotype naturally. Technically, it's not that difficult from my understanding.

Preserving the ogee line is very important (the reason that manipulating the jaw and chin on photoshop looks good is because the shadows and ogee line are preserved, leaving the face 'lean' and not bloated like you see with some implants). One of the problems is, most jawangle implants go high up on the mandible, cause they need to be fixed, while you only need the angle in most cases. But when you look at the implant(designs), you see there is implant material at places where it's not needed. This is done to fix it and make it stable, but aestethically, something like 30-40 percent of the wrap around implant is aestehtically useless, I guess.

In the end, luck probably plays a big role as well (although all surgeons will say it's not about luck).
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Re: Chin looks a bit too short after implant
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2019, 03:28:50 PM »
Do you know if Medpor can be custom 3D modeled/fitted? Or are all medpor implants 'off the shelf'

Yes. I can. But if covers a broad area, it has to be put in in pieces because it can't be squeeze collapsed in the hand as to introduce through a small incision.
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