Which surgeries can move the jaw angles further back?

[swissguy]

Basically, the horizontal distance between my earlobe (taking this simply as a point of reference) and my gonial is way too big. Which surgeries would make it possible to move the gonial back so the angle between ramus and jaw angle becomes smaller? I am thinking of sidewing or jaw implants, but I have never actually seen results that focused on the posterior jaw. Also, can any surgery make the ramus more defined? As far as I know, implants only cover a small part of the total ramus.
I assume bimax would be useless for this, as it is only possible to elongate the lower third by winning length towards the front. Correct me if I am wrong about this.

[Lestat]

Ivro (maybe).

[djsbelgium]

A defined ramus is the result of proper forward growth (can be achieved with bimax). Same goes for the jawline.

[swissguy]

A defined ramus is the result of proper forward growth (can be achieved with bimax). Same goes for the jawline.

But isnt only the jawline that is already "in front" of the gonial elongated during bimax?
See this image:  https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jpZW6ttTd6E/maxresdefault.jpg  -> the gonial stays more or less at the same position
or are there bimax variants that differ from posted example?

[kavan]

Hard to visualize what you are asking. Are you asking if it's possible to make a VERTICAL cut through the ramus to overlap one part over the other as to decrease horizontal distance of a WIDE ramus?  Perhaps use the diagram you linked to to illustrate on it what you are asking.

[swissguy]

gonial that is too far forward: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606103113232810016/608783529601400862/unknown.png
amateur morhp of what I believe would look much better: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606103113232810016/608783768966266906/unknown.png

hope this helps to understand what I mean

[IconVillage]

Jaw angle implant

[djsbelgium]

But isnt only the jawline that is already "in front" of the gonial elongated during bimax?
See this image:  https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jpZW6ttTd6E/maxresdefault.jpg  -> the gonial stays more or less at the same position
or are there bimax variants that differ from posted example?

Gonial stays in position but becomes more defined with bimax advancement because the jaws will pull the tissue

[kavan]

gonial that is too far forward: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606103113232810016/608783529601400862/unknown.png
amateur morhp of what I believe would look much better: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/606103113232810016/608783768966266906/unknown.png

hope this helps to understand what I mean

Looks like it would be a custom implant aimed at augmenting the posterior aspect of the jaw angle.

[swissguy]

Looks like it would be a custom implant aimed at augmenting the posterior aspect of the jaw angle.

do you think the "elongation" is realistic though? I mean thats at LEAST a whole centimeter, probably more like 1.5-2, is this acheivable with implants?
All implant results I have seen so far aimed at improving the jaw width, and not the posterior length, so I dont know what is actually possible.

[djsbelgium]

Similar to what you want:
https://www.facialsculptureclinic.com/en/case/jaw-surgery/jaw-angle-augmentation/244/

[kavan]

do you think the "elongation" is realistic though? I mean thats at LEAST a whole centimeter, probably more like 1.5-2, is this acheivable with implants?
All implant results I have seen so far aimed at improving the jaw width, and not the posterior length, so I dont know what is actually possible.

The jaw ANGLE area can be elongated vertically downward, bulked out anteriorly 'outward' and built out posteriorly 'backwards' with custom implants which are used to design in specific SHAPE requests.

If you want to know what your morph of desired look would apply to, it would apply to a CUSTOMIZED implant design.

If you want to know such things as what the measures of such an implant customized to the outcome you've illustrated would be in specific directions and/or how 'realistic' one specific augmentation direction would be you would need to consult with a doctor who uses them.