That clean shave was taken in 2013 at my leanest(70kg) aged 18 during the days when I was delusional and thought I could get girls with muscles as I was following Zyzz...
And no
I never had a single surgery before chin wing due to me always chickening out
I went ahead and used steroids which accelerated hair loss lol but by the time I started using steroids, I had started to visit websites like lookism etc which made me realise I won’t get girls because of muscles as my face was not up to tier so I quit lifting and just continued using testosterone enanthate at 250mg per week ever since(my natural testosterone level was 271ng/dL at age 17 which was super low)
Now the bearded pics are from 2018, I don’t take much pics and never did a clean shave because the facial hair helped mask a long midface
My goal is to look like Toni mahfud who has a long midface too, his long midface is masked thanks to his bulging zygos and wide jaw
Well, a before 6 years prior with your face looking really good showed you had great bone structure. Of course, you could have had some changes 6 years later after that right before you got the chin wing but your bone structure still would have been GOOD. However, unfavorable changes look very much to be a direct function of exposure to 'Lookism' and mentality of there.
One reason I don't like 'Lookism' types on here is that too many are addlepated and very much appear to lose IQ points in conjunction with exposure there (or maybe they just start with low IQ). Catching a type of BDD from there is contagious.
Sorry to say but people with too much exposure to there who come here demonstrate a type of stupidity that's hard to compensate for because they lack capacity to digest information. I know this sounds 'mean' but you should know that you are not too bright, an 'NTB' whether you started that way or became that way in the process of contagnation from there. That LOWERS your capacity to make a good decision and also makes it exercise in futility for others on here to guide you. Afterall, I had to ban you for 10 days because you did NOT demonstrate the capacity to understand effects of SWELLING and took it on yourself to take extra dosages of ABs outside of what doctor prescribed.
That said, I could be wrong about your being 'NTB'. But IF I am, you will demonstrate ability to smarten up. If you don't and your participation here resolves to wanting coaching to look like a MALE MODEL, I'm going to deport you back to the Lookism sites.